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Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest

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Re: Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest

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Threatening to cut federal funding for a major public university after an event like this, however disastrous, is exactly what I'd expect from an authoritarian dictator and not the president of the United States. Had the roles been reversed and right wing protesters started a riot due to an extreme left wing speaker, does anyone honestly believe Trump would have reacted this way? For the record, I'm not trying to exc…

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Re: Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Milo has no god-enshrined right to hold a rally at a university campus, just like he has no god-enshrined right to hold one at the country club down the road. It is completely consistent to protest the establishments allowing him to do so. There is also the argument that fascism is an existential threat to liberal democracy. See the paradox of tolerance.

You're missing the point though. They're protesting him because one of his Twitter followers called Leslie Jones an ape. And yet they weren't throwing rocks at Bernie because his followers referred to black people as low-information voters. Nor were they protesting Hillary because her followers referred to Obama as a boy. Do you really not see the double standard?

They're protesting him because one of his Twitter followers called Leslie Jones an ape.

Do you seriously, honestly believe that that is only or even primary reason people might have for protesting Milo?

Re: Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're missing the point though. They're protesting him because one of his Twitter followers called Leslie Jones an ape. And yet they weren't throwing rocks at Bernie because his followers referred to black people as low-information voters. Nor were they protesting Hillary because her followers referred to Obama as a boy. Do you really not see the double standard?

They're protesting him because one of his Twitter followers called Leslie Jones an ape. Do you seriously, honestly believe that that is only or even primary reason people might have for protesting Milo?

> Do you seriously, honestly believe that that is only or even primary reason people might have for protesting Milo?

Yes. The reason most people are giving for protesting him is that he's racist, and the fact that one of his followers called Leslie Jones an ape is always cited as the reason for why he's racist.

If you don't believe me, look at the reasons the ADL gives for why he's racist:

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/domestic-extremism-terrori...

Re: Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest

#55
post #10

A reminder that at a similar protest in Seattle just last week one of the protesters was shot by one of Milo's supporters. The shooter was not arrested and has not been charged. But you know, breaking window's is pretty bad too. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/shooting-mil...

No, one protestor mistook the "anti-fascist" tattoo on another protestor as implying support for fascism, and so shot him. The violence was all carried out by those trying to shut down the free speech of a gay Jew who only dates black men.

I've heard from a number of people who were there that the shooter was a Milo fan who was visibly intoxicated and picking fights all night. The man he shot was trying to break up a fight he started. Notice the victim wasn't wearing a mask, like the more aggressive antifa guys.

Police have not called it self defense, it's still under investigation. It's really astonishing the amount of misinformation going around about this. It always has to be a false-flag, I guess.

Re: Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're protesting him because one of his Twitter followers called Leslie Jones an ape. Do you seriously, honestly believe that that is only or even primary reason people might have for protesting Milo?

> Do you seriously, honestly believe that that is only or even primary reason people might have for protesting Milo? Yes. The reason most people are giving for protesting him is that he's racist, and the fact that one of his followers called Leslie Jones an ape is always cited as the reason for why he's racist. If you don't believe me, look at the reasons the ADL gives for why he's racist: http://www.adl.org/combatin…

How about when he publicly doxxed and insulted a transgender student at UW-Milwaukee as another reason to protest him among many many other valid reasons? http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/milo-yiannopoulos-harassed-a...

Re: Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest

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post #8

That wasn't a protest. That was a riot. Let's call a spade a spade for once. I dont't expect much from Jeff Bezos's personal blog, but here on HN standards should be higher.

Regardless of what you want to call it, the real question is why liberals are now fighting against civil liberties.

The real question is whether President Trump's threats are justifiable, but I'd settle for understanding how you justify your criticism of an entire bloc.

Re: Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest

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post #10

A reminder that at a similar protest in Seattle just last week one of the protesters was shot by one of Milo's supporters. The shooter was not arrested and has not been charged. But you know, breaking window's is pretty bad too. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/shooting-mil...

Fake news. Antifa thug was shot by a man whose identity or political affiliation hasn't been disclosed, in self defense. How do we know it was in self defense? UW police said so, after releasing him.

Actually fake news is only used by the right.

Re: Trump threatens to cut funds to UC Berkeley after protest

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FTA: “I do not believe our students were involved in the vandalism and the violent behavior that occurred,” the university's police chief, Margo Bennet, told reporters. “This was a group of agitators who were masked up, throwing rocks, commercial-grade fireworks and Molotov cocktails at officers. Those were not our students. That's not our students' behavior.” At this point I'm far more curious about the behavior of…

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