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Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by dvdhnt »

macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

I enjoy Safari and use it for general browsing. However, as a developer, I perceive their developer program to be unfriendly with a high barrier to entry. That may be acceptable in a closed ecosystem like iOS but unacceptable in an ecosystem like the general web.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by madeofpalk »

nkkollaw wrote: post #46

I wish they made it usable, favoring function over [their idea of ]beauty. I still can't use it because of the super-annoing "feature" that greys out tab favicons making impossible to immediately see what site is loaded in that tab if you have a lot of tabs open, and of course not showing the full address on iOS (I'm bother by the fact they think it's a good idea, but at least on macOS there's a setting to remove it)…

Like that super readable Chrome tab bar when you have lots of tabs open? http://imgur.com/a/MZ2dI

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by mtw »

macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

are you happy with the safari extensions?

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by mark_l_watson »

macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

I agree. On macOS all of my web browsing is done on Safari, except for using Chrome for Google products, Facebook, and Twitter.

I keep the privacy settings much tighter on Safari, even though I frequently delete all 'web data' (cache, cookies, etc.) on both browsers.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by arvinsim »

macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

Developers love Chrome because its Devtools are second to none.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by madeofpalk »

I'm always pleasantly surprised when Apple graces us with Safari updates. They tend to come with fairly cutting edge features when they actually ship.

The opportunity they have at the moment is the super long gap between releases, which is even more apparent on iOS. I wish Safari could switch to a more Chrome-like model of shipping smaller updates more frequently, perhaps in an evergreen model. I guess there's only so many new emoji's Apple can use to encourage people to upgrade...

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by franciscop »

jbmorgado wrote: post #22
eridius wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My best guess is it's just people tired of seeing someone complain about the $100 developer program membership every time the subject of Safari extensions comes up.

So people get tired of facing reality and down vote whoever makes them peek outside their walled garden. Ok, it's acceptable.

I've never owned a Mac or iPhone but this tone is offensive and not welcome in HN as can be seen in the guideliness: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

    Be civil [...] Avoid gratuitous negativity.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by SquareWheel »

j_s wrote: post #30
tdumitrescu wrote: post #7

Whew. Custom Elements, Fetch, and async/await all at once? Christmas came real early in 2017...

Does this mean Safari is no longer the new IE? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9804533

Service Workers is the big one I'm waiting on before making that call, but this certainly helps.

https://webkit.org/status/#specification-service-workers

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by tpush »

macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

Well, think of all the devs who do not work on a Mac.
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