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Re: Updates to our Google Voice apps

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I just ran into the "this isn't a phone number" issue with Telegram this morning. It claims my Google Voice (well really Project Fi now) number is a VOIP number, so I can't use it :(.

But... it is a VOIP number.

So is literally every phone number in the US for the past ten years. SIP replaced traditional trunking completely a decade ago. Cellphones have been using digital backend since 3G (though the voice transmission was still analog, for some value of analog)

Re: Updates to our Google Voice apps

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I used to use my Google Voice number as my primary contact number, but when development of the product seemingly died for three years without addressing outstanding issues with group MMS or picture messages, I migrated back to my regular cell number. I've already told all my friends to forget my Google Voice number. I've changed my preferences in every service I use to contact my regular cell number. Now Google is so…

Out of curiosity, why didn't you keep using it, but with Hangouts instead?

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Re: Updates to our Google Voice apps

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I used to use my Google Voice number as my primary contact number, but when development of the product seemingly died for three years without addressing outstanding issues with group MMS or picture messages, I migrated back to my regular cell number. I've already told all my friends to forget my Google Voice number. I've changed my preferences in every service I use to contact my regular cell number. Now Google is so…

> I've already told all my friends to forget my Google Voice number.

Why didn't you migrate your GV number? That seems a lot less painful than telling everyone to update your contact information.

Re: Updates to our Google Voice apps

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I've been a Google Voice user for 6-7 years. It became more important to me 5 years ago when I moved to the UK and ported my mobile number to GV. It's not been very pretty. We were thrown a lifeline with the Google Hangouts app taking over for the absolutely-awful Google Voice app. One of the most frustrating things about GV is that for certain SMS providers, it fails the "is this a USA number test" or "can we SMS to…

Get a google fi account and don't put the SIM in a phone (besides perhaps to activate the first time).

Then you get full featured texts and voice calling in gmail and the hangouts app. It'll cost $20/mo.

Re: Updates to our Google Voice apps

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"One number for life" ... unless of course you want to use our other service, Google Fi, in which case you will be forced to relinquish it. No improvements on that small problem, it seems.

You can port your number from Voice to Fi, you just can't use both on the same account.

Re: Updates to our Google Voice apps

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As a current Fi user and former Voice user, I'm still unclear on the relationship between the two. Hangouts for Mac still rings when I get a phone call, but I can't answer the call.

I'm a fi user and I can make/receive calls and send/get texts via Hangouts on both my phone and on the web/desktop.

Ah, I think that I elected to use the native Messages app rather than Hangouts on Android for SMS. This may be the root of my issue.

I found hangouts on Android tough to use for SMS.

Re: Updates to our Google Voice apps

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As a Fi user (and the number was used from Google Voice), still Fi/Google Voice has problem that the phone doesn't ring even the call goes to Voicemail. Phone has no 'missed call' and suddenly voicemail is received. This issue has been addressed a few years ago but still they never give any option to extend ringing time. What a poor service.

I think this is an Android problem and not specific to Fi. On Android when the phone rings every process on the device absolutely freaks out.

THE PHONE IS RINGING OMG OMG INTERPROCESS MESSAGE BUS TRAFFIC!!!!!!1111111ONE

The process that plays the sound that rings your phone is just another process fighting it out with all the other ones for CPU time. Sometimes it loses.

Re: Updates to our Google Voice apps

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I used to use my Google Voice number as my primary contact number, but when development of the product seemingly died for three years without addressing outstanding issues with group MMS or picture messages, I migrated back to my regular cell number. I've already told all my friends to forget my Google Voice number. I've changed my preferences in every service I use to contact my regular cell number. Now Google is so…

I boosted my Google Voice number out of Google Voice and into T-Mobile.

Took like 30 minutes.

Secondly, the Google Hangouts app had effectively replaced Google Voice for years. I think picture messages worked there no problem.

Re: Updates to our Google Voice apps

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just ran into the "this isn't a phone number" issue with Telegram this morning. It claims my Google Voice (well really Project Fi now) number is a VOIP number, so I can't use it :(.

But... it is a VOIP number.

I also switched from Voice to Fi and it's technically a VoIP number transferred to the Fi MVNO... Not sure why that fails the VoIP test, I'm paying for normal phone service but it's not legit enough???

Re: Updates to our Google Voice apps

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I like how this story has shot up immediately to the top of Hacker News. Google Voice is beloved by its users, but Google hasn't shown love for it for (as they point out) five years. I'm glad to see the update! So that's lovely, though overall the PMs and VPs need to reconcile all the apps with each other. A friend recently bought a Pixel Phone and was lost as to what to use. I mean, I can't blame him... * Phone's ge…

I don't understand what's there to be lost about? Those are separate chat services? Or is 2017 the year when understanding that e.g. Facebook Messenger, Duo (video chat), SMS and Hangouts are different services?

Facebook Messenger, Duo, SMS and Hangouts are offered by different companies. The reason people are so baffled by Google's messaging apps is that there are six of them from one company, with no coherent explanation as to why. Even if I want to go "all in" on Google services, how do I know what to use?
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