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Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends
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Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends
#52I've been using Vivaldi now for over a year (since early beta days), and finding it a great experience. A couple of things I really like - (1) that the browser chrome changes to suit the colour scheme of the website that you have loaded when flicking through tabs. Makes it really easy to identify what site you are on especially if you have scrolled down past the header. (2) that they have a slider on the bottom toolb…
> Makes it really easy to identify what site you are on especially if you have scrolled down past the header.
You find using browser chrome color is easier than using URL bar for identifying the site?
Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends
#53I check in on Vivaldi every few months to see how it's coming along, and there are some things that I like. However, I think they're a bit TOO fixated on Opera as it was 15 years ago. I keep waiting for bookmark sync, which today is a fundamental browser feature rather than a nice-to-have. But the Vivaldi guys insist on pouring resources into an integrated desktop email client instead, because that was a signature fe…
> However, it's probably no exaggeration to say that most users haven't used a desktop email client in over a decade.
Almost everyone that uses macOS uses Apple Mail. Actually, I prefer that from having to (keep ) open a tab for Gmail.
Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends
#54I could've given it a try if it was opensource. But because it's closed I immediately classify it as vaporware, and as the browser is one of the two centers of my daily computing (the other being emacs), I won't invest in vaporware. I believe that opensourcing is the best choice of the company behind this.
> Closed source = vaporware
Then why has Firefox been the 'shit' browser for the better part of a decade now?
Best battery life (usually by a 2-4h difference!) -> use Edge/Safari
Best stability -> use Chrome
Best performance -> use Blink-based browser
Most extensions -> use Firefox (Chrome has 90% of the FF extensions available though)
Hell, Firefox still doesn't have e10s fully working, so one tab takes down the entire browser. Slow sites lock up the UI. Scrolling sometimes still isn't smooth. Plus, Firefox is ugly, especially on mobile. and whilst its admirable they still prop up Gecko, its a substandard rendering engine compared to Webkit, Blink or Trident/EdgeHMTL.
Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends
#55I've been using Vivaldi now for over a year (since early beta days), and finding it a great experience. A couple of things I really like - (1) that the browser chrome changes to suit the colour scheme of the website that you have loaded when flicking through tabs. Makes it really easy to identify what site you are on especially if you have scrolled down past the header. (2) that they have a slider on the bottom toolb…
> Makes it really easy to identify what site you are on especially if you have scrolled down past the header. You find using browser chrome color is easier than using URL bar for identifying the site?
LOL, next you'll be saying that we should replace coloured traffic lights with black and white "STOP" and "GO" signs?
I'd suggest you do a Google search on the human ability to discern colour as an indicator way faster than reading text. Especially if on the peripheral vision outside of direct line of sight. NASA and USAF research papers on layouts of aircraft/spacecraft instrumentation etc. too might be helpful to you.
Real world example - Right now, as I type this in another browser in the foreground, my Vivaldi browser is 80% obscured by this window, but I can tell by the right edge of the window colour that the currently active tab on it is my Google Mail.
Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends
#56Been using it for 6 months now and I love it. Verticals tabs were literally the only thing keeping me on Firefox. Love the search bar which splits suggestions into Typed, Bookmarks, History categories. So many great details and customization features in this browser.
It still doesn't nest tabs like Tree-Style tabs addin for FF though right? When they get that I'll switch at least part time, FF for me is getting so laggy (due to inefficient JS on certain websites like twitter) it is extremely painful to use. EDIT: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/3255/tree-style-tab/16 One page 4: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/3255/tree-style-tab/67 "I do know that internally, there is discussion…
You can stack tabs in Vivaldi. It's pretty similar, good enough for me. One thing I miss from firefox is the tab groups feature though.
Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends
#57I check in on Vivaldi every few months to see how it's coming along, and there are some things that I like. However, I think they're a bit TOO fixated on Opera as it was 15 years ago. I keep waiting for bookmark sync, which today is a fundamental browser feature rather than a nice-to-have. But the Vivaldi guys insist on pouring resources into an integrated desktop email client instead, because that was a signature fe…
> However, it's probably no exaggeration to say that most users haven't used a desktop email client in over a decade. Almost everyone that uses macOS uses Apple Mail. Actually, I prefer that from having to (keep ) open a tab for Gmail.
I even use Postbox
Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends
#58I check in on Vivaldi every few months to see how it's coming along, and there are some things that I like. However, I think they're a bit TOO fixated on Opera as it was 15 years ago. I keep waiting for bookmark sync, which today is a fundamental browser feature rather than a nice-to-have. But the Vivaldi guys insist on pouring resources into an integrated desktop email client instead, because that was a signature fe…
Almost everyone I know using email for business uses a desktop client - usually Mac Mail, sometimes thunderbird.
A new client that isn't quite so neglected would be very welcome.
Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, yes, I intended "software that'll become useless, unmaintained and outdated rather quickly".
If I had a penny for every useless, unmaintained, and outdated open source project...
...you'd have more pennies than me if I had a penny for every unmaintained commercial software.
Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends
#60So what's the business model here? This is a "free" product, so how does Vivaldi intend to ensure its continued existence?
I'm wondering this too. Mozilla has tons of sponsorship from Yahoo and others. Google invests in Chrome to give them leverage for their own products. Since Vivaldi is closed source, how do I know they aren't selling my data?