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Dropbox Could Have One of 2017’s Most Interesting IPOs

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Re: Dropbox Could Have One of 2017’s Most Interesting IPOs

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Because most people pay them for the hosting, and the UI/UX is just a bonus. There are plenty of open protocols for file sharing, like HTTP or SFTP. What unmet requirements do you envision?

> What unmet requirements do you envision? Well, for starters, automatic synchronization in the background.

That's not a protocol, though. That's a userspace application.

Re: Dropbox Could Have One of 2017’s Most Interesting IPOs

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> What unmet requirements do you envision? Well, for starters, automatic synchronization in the background.

That's not a protocol, though. That's a userspace application.

I'm not sure if that is correct. I suspect that (efficient) synchronization needs some sort of protocol.

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I pay $100/year for Pro. Cheaper and easier to have 1TB of remote storage than SD cards, USB sticks, etc, and no excessive bandwidth charges such that AWS has. EDIT: I don't care if my files are encrypted. EDIT 2: Dropbox sync is rock solid. Every experience with the Google Drive sync client has been trash. I can (and do) pay for convenience.

Any reason that you use it over Google Drive?

Does it have an official Linux client?

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I wonder why we haven't seen good open-source imitations of Dropbox yet, and why there isn't a good open protocol for file sharing. The last such protocol I've heard of is WebDAV, but it seemed to have been neglected by OS implementers (Apple's implementation was particularly bad). Also WebDAV was missing many modern features.

I agree, and by no means is it a replacement, but https://syncthing.net is pretty damn interesting if you want to control your own data. https://www.syncany.org [now abandonded] was a cool twist on the idea using cloud storage in a secure way.

I've been using SyncThing for a few years now and I'm mildly surprised that it is not more popular.

Though every time they release a new major version it breaks compatibility with the older major versions and this happens quite often. They need to stop doing that if they want mainstream adoption.

Re: Dropbox Could Have One of 2017’s Most Interesting IPOs

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I talked to a friend just before Christmas whose firm made a good portion of their returns on the insight that VC firms, IPO participants and the market in general all have gaps in how they evaluate the worth of a company and the fact that this gap has grown significantly in the past 5 years. Previously, companies went public much sooner and you could expect a match, not an exact one, but in the same ball park, betwe…

> GAAP analysis usually assigns a revenue multiple to a company that is based on its sector and assumed growth GAAP is an accounting framework [1]. It defines, for example, how one may and may not recognise revenues [2]. GAAP does not tell investors how to value a company. "GAAP Analysis" isn't a thing (gap analysis is [3], but that's a management tool). That said, yes, public-company investors tend to look at Revenu…

It's pretty clear that what he means by "GAAP analysis" is "valuation based on GAAP revenue", as opposed to "valuation based on bullshit cooked revenue metrics", like the fanciful definitions that Groupon tried to convince everyone about.

Re: Dropbox Could Have One of 2017’s Most Interesting IPOs

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Dropbox is one of those products that is just a pleasure to use (like Stripe). Sync works seamlessly. I've tried all other alternatives and gotten back to being a paid customer of Dropbox. I think it also boils down to most of your employees being passionate, smart folks from MIT, CMU and the like. Good luck to them with the IPO.

Unfortunately for me, Dropbox has never been a pleasure as an OSX user. The number of times dropbox just spins eating up cpu while trying to index all my files has forced me to uninstall it. Also since my company uses it for all client work, and they still haven't figured out selective sync (https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/Dropbox/Stop-auto-inheriting...) I was occasionally finding all my broadband and space getting eaten up by a new client folder.

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Being the one cloud service that sync across Linux, Windows, OS X with a native client, Dropbox is the service I'd like to give money for about 100GB of space for a couple of bucks a month, but I just don't need 1TB for $10 a month. So instead I use Google and wait in vain for a native Linux client that's probably never coming.

Pro is $8.25 / month for 1TB on annual billing. I rarely see monthly pricing for under 5$. So, I don't think it's going to drop much at this point. https://www.dropbox.com/business/plans-comparison?_tk=dbv1 IMO, 1TB is completly reasonble. You can get ~10 GB of storage several places for free which covers most things and minmaxing 2-3$ per month is generally a waste of time.

What a lot of us want is more granularity. I'm totally fine with their per-GB pricing, but if I (as a personal user) want more than 1TB, it is literally impossible to buy it from Dropbox. I would have to upgrade to a business plan, which makes no sense as I'm not a business.

Basically, there are only 3 Dropbox tiers: 0, 1TB, or infinity.

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I talked to a friend just before Christmas whose firm made a good portion of their returns on the insight that VC firms, IPO participants and the market in general all have gaps in how they evaluate the worth of a company and the fact that this gap has grown significantly in the past 5 years. Previously, companies went public much sooner and you could expect a match, not an exact one, but in the same ball park, betwe…

I've gone through 6 startup IPOs since 1999 in the valley, and have watched as it went from a way to reward employees to a whole lot of voodoo bullshit. I'm a little stunned when I see people still talking about the startups they work for and possibly making it big - that doesn't happen anymore. You are being lied to.

Genuinely curious what you think has changed. Liquidity events are certainly much later than they used to be. What else has had negative effects? Late stage ratchet terms?

Re: Dropbox Could Have One of 2017’s Most Interesting IPOs

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Dropbox is one of those products that is just a pleasure to use (like Stripe). Sync works seamlessly. I've tried all other alternatives and gotten back to being a paid customer of Dropbox. I think it also boils down to most of your employees being passionate, smart folks from MIT, CMU and the like. Good luck to them with the IPO.

Unfortunately for me, Dropbox has never been a pleasure as an OSX user. The number of times dropbox just spins eating up cpu while trying to index all my files has forced me to uninstall it. Also since my company uses it for all client work, and they still haven't figured out selective sync ( https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/Dropbox/Stop-auto-inheriting... ) I was occasionally finding all my broadband and space gettin…

Weird, it's never spun for me.
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