feels like this person is overreacting. You should also not be sharing any questions that were asked.
Looking at your comment history, it seems like you only post on HN to defend Amazon.
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#52As much as I would like to bash Amazon for their draconian and insane interview loops -- which I've been put through once. The post clearly states these clauses were part of an exam taken on https://proctorio.com/ for the Amazon interview. So it's doubtful Amazon HR is fully aware of these clauses. I would happily bash Amazon interview loops all day long, but in this particular case, I would also need to criticize an…
So it's doubtful Amazon HR is fully aware of these clauses.
By all accounts, Amazon is a pretty tightly-run organization. And given the scale of the hiring they do, you be pretty sure that in fact, yes they are exactly aware of what proctorio is doing -- and chose them for precisely that reason.
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#53As someone who has first hand experienced cheating in interviews I think this is an extremely good move. I know some people in bay area who are making > $100k in cash (no taxes paid) just by answering screening interviews on other people's behalf. This is called "interview by proxy" and the person generally takes first month's salary as remuneration in cash.
Why would you cheat, though? You're going to get the job and probably be completely incapable of doing the work. Not to mention there's usually an in-person tech interview afterward.
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#54As someone who has first hand experienced cheating in interviews I think this is an extremely good move. I know some people in bay area who are making > $100k in cash (no taxes paid) just by answering screening interviews on other people's behalf. This is called "interview by proxy" and the person generally takes first month's salary as remuneration in cash.
If an employer is so disorganized that this doesn't become obvious during the first month of working there, they probably have much greater problems than cheating on their idiotic cargo cult coding tests, and fixing the cheating would do absolutely nothing to save the company.
"this doesn't become obvious during the first month of working there"
This is a gross oversimplification of the problem. Do you know how difficult it is to fire a person? Do you know how much it costs to hire someone? You've given this person a relocation bonus, possibly put in the work to set up a visa, given the first chunk of a signing bonus....
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#55> You will not be able to open any tabs or windows If I had to code purely from memory, without the benefit of language or library docs, I would not be able to write anything of use. Personally when hiring, I'm not interested in a candidate's memory recall, but the ability to use resources when faced with a new challenge.
Within these restrictions, I don't think they expect your written code to compile. They just want to ensure the integrity of the test itself. Is it worth the invasion of privacy? Personally, I don't think so.
Well if you participate in an on-site test which the person was willing to do you are essentially tested under the same conditions, so I'd not really consider this to be a privacy invasion.
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#56The following information will be collected during the duration of the exam: Your microphone Your webcam Your physical location Your head movements Your eye movements Your mouth movements Creepy as all get-out. By all means, lets have more leaks like this.
Not to mention:
Any website you visit
What a fantastic way of driving away virtually every candidate that's even remotely high-caliber.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or you know, having another computer? I literally have 12 computers or phones in my house. Could I not use another one if I needed to cheat that badly?
They may catch you if they replay * Your webcam video * Your head movements * Your eye movements * Your mouth movements that was all collected during the test.
Tape over the webcam. If they ask, just say you always gave tape over your webcam for security reasons. You could also use a computer without a webcam.
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#59Wait, I see nothing wrong with any of this. Obviously Amazon is trying to curb cheating on remote coding/compatibility tests. They don't actually care to collect any info about you beyond what you do during the test. They don't care which websites you visit before or after the test. Or how you use your clipboard - after the test. But during the test, it's not so unreasonable. People do cheat, especially if they can g…
The premise that cheating is a major risk or issue in job interviews is .... nutty.
While it's true that a follow-up interview would further determine a candidate proficiency, the remote interview is meant to be a weed-out test. If enough people cheat, then it becomes useless for Amazon. And yes, I've heard of people cheating on interviews, including for Amazon.
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#60Wait, I see nothing wrong with any of this. Obviously Amazon is trying to curb cheating on remote coding/compatibility tests. They don't actually care to collect any info about you beyond what you do during the test. They don't care which websites you visit before or after the test. Or how you use your clipboard - after the test. But during the test, it's not so unreasonable. People do cheat, especially if they can g…
The premise that cheating is a major risk or issue in job interviews is .... nutty.
And yet...I have seen people cheat on technical interviews conducted over video chat. It's pretty obvious in that situation — oh, where did that come from? — but I can see it being an issue in a highly automated interview process with minimal human oversight.
Of course, I think that the real answer for that is to use a human to interview everyone. It's crazy to treat potential future employees this way.