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Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

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Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

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Post by d_e_solomon »

xnemdncn wrote: post #32
vectorpush wrote: post #29

Who cares? Reddit is a private company, they can set their own standards for moderation. For several years now I've seen this non-stop obsession with lambasting reddit as a shit-hole and a left-wing echo-chamber and a shit company run by amateurs and SJWs. Who cares? The overwhelming majority of redditors subsist on photos of animals and drawings of video game characters. Just leave if reddit isn't friendly to your p…

>Who cares? Reddit is a private company, they can set their own standards for moderation. Except it's not that simple. There's a substantial amount of judicial precedent that you can't refuse service to customers just because you disagree with their ideology or background, otherwise it would be okay to refuse service to supporters of gay marriage for example. It's appalling that you would even suggest that.

Would you cite the judicial precedent that you're relying on? Heart of Atlanta was based on the commerce cause and the civil rights act. I can't think of anything else that would apply.

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

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Post by [deleted] »

xnemdncn wrote: post #32
vectorpush wrote: post #29

Who cares? Reddit is a private company, they can set their own standards for moderation. For several years now I've seen this non-stop obsession with lambasting reddit as a shit-hole and a left-wing echo-chamber and a shit company run by amateurs and SJWs. Who cares? The overwhelming majority of redditors subsist on photos of animals and drawings of video game characters. Just leave if reddit isn't friendly to your p…

>Who cares? Reddit is a private company, they can set their own standards for moderation. Except it's not that simple. There's a substantial amount of judicial precedent that you can't refuse service to customers just because you disagree with their ideology or background, otherwise it would be okay to refuse service to supporters of gay marriage for example. It's appalling that you would even suggest that.

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Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

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Post by kreneskyp »

xnemdncn wrote: post #32
vectorpush wrote: post #29

Who cares? Reddit is a private company, they can set their own standards for moderation. For several years now I've seen this non-stop obsession with lambasting reddit as a shit-hole and a left-wing echo-chamber and a shit company run by amateurs and SJWs. Who cares? The overwhelming majority of redditors subsist on photos of animals and drawings of video game characters. Just leave if reddit isn't friendly to your p…

>Who cares? Reddit is a private company, they can set their own standards for moderation. Except it's not that simple. There's a substantial amount of judicial precedent that you can't refuse service to customers just because you disagree with their ideology or background, otherwise it would be okay to refuse service to supporters of gay marriage for example. It's appalling that you would even suggest that.

It's not discrimination to enforce site wide rules against harassment, racism, and brigading (coordinated upvoting). Just because only a few communities are breaking the rules doesn't make it discrimination. Racists and bigots aren't a protected class.

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

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Post by r_smart »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #26
ProAm wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just because you disagree with their opinion does not mean you should want to kick them out I don't see why the admins don't just edit the posts? No need to ban things.

Ha ha, good one. Wasn't Reddit CEO's ass on fire recently for doing exactly that?

Yeah, and I think according to him, even the reddit team was really pissed at him for his actions.

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

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Post by jjawssd »

laurent123456 wrote: post #37
jjawssd wrote: post #8

If Reddit can not handle free speech, Voat will. Once Voat is overrun by the enemies of free expression, someone else will take the helm and continue. Such is the nature of a free Internet.

It's not really a free speech issue to be honest. As far as I can tell some of these sub-reddits, like the_donald in particular, are well organised and know how to push their posts to the front page (the rare time I open /r/all, their posts are almost always among the top ones, despite being very low quality content). So it's no about censoring free speech, it's about making the idiot shouting his opinions with a meg…

Spez has already weighted that subreddit so it rarely shows up on the front page.

Why hasn't he outright deleted the subreddit?

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

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Post by Alex3917 »

psychometry wrote: post #39
xnemdncn wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Who cares? Reddit is a private company, they can set their own standards for moderation. Except it's not that simple. There's a substantial amount of judicial precedent that you can't refuse service to customers just because you disagree with their ideology or background, otherwise it would be okay to refuse service to supporters of gay marriage for example. It's appalling that you would even suggest that.

There is literally no "judicial precedent" for a website owner being disallowed from moderating user-submitted content. What are you talking about?

There actually are lots of safe harbor protections for common carriers. Lack of editorial oversight is why sites like YouTube can qualify for these protections, but sites like Gawker wouldn't be able to. (Even though they ultimately got shut down for ignoring a court order or whatever.)

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

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Post by Senji »

jjawssd wrote: post #46
MK999 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a modern day book burning by the tolerant Left. Where's all those people around here that quote (the illogical expression) "I don't agree with you but I'll die for your right to say it" I guess that's just an bad faith argument to be used when convenient.

What's wrong with that? You aren't entitled to freedom of expression on any particular platform run by a private entity. Freedom of expression only applies to the government.

Freedom of expression is an ideal my dim friend.

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

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Post by qyv »

ideonexus wrote: post #24
jjawssd wrote: post #8

If Reddit can not handle free speech, Voat will. Once Voat is overrun by the enemies of free expression, someone else will take the helm and continue. Such is the nature of a free Internet.

Ironic that you've made this comment on HackerNews, a site, it can be argued, whose appeal comes from its pretty substantial moderation. I can't tell you how many links I've seen flagged and banished from HN that I thought were important, but... once I cooled down my outrage, I realized the conversations occurring on them were pretty toxic. I come to HN because of the focus and constructive dialogue. I stay away from…

Without the draw of getting the big audience of r/all I would not be surprised if communities like the_donald will start to stagnate if they had to move to voat.
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