Does this cover HTML5 and CS3? How much JS is taught to be able to make me employable
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#52I'm looking for courses that seem to be the opposite of this... no language or programming at all, but instead looking at the process of breaking down problems. We've hired several devs out of bootcamp, and they're all taught how to code, but not how to solve problems using code... Anyone have material that might be good for this? Books, videos, courses?
Ive also been trying to find something similar.
My dad has been trying to learn to code and all the courses labeled "learn to code" seem to be coding on the web. Not learning "How to solve problems using code".
Ive had to take him manually through basics of control structures, variables,etc.
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> We've hired several devs out of bootcamp, and they're all taught how to code, but not how to solve problems using code... Frankly any Algorithms & Data structures book should do the trick. Choosing the right data structure is often half the solution when solving a problem. That plus SICP and a book about Discrete Math should be enough for 90% of the daily problems.
I'm not sure Algorithms & Data Structures will help you all that much in the real world. In most modern languages, all the algorithms and data structures are already implemented in the standard library, and while having heard of them is beneficial, you won't get a lot of value out of knowing how to do a binary search. The problems that I see most junior devs struggling with are at a much higher level. How do you orga…
> How do you organize large scale programs? How do you make sure that different parts interact flawlessly?
All junior (and many senior) devs struggle with that. This is solved with experience, not training.
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Sweet! I think you'll like Rails. Message me if you have questions along the way. I'm here to help.
Are the later parts paid only or unlocked when progressed to certain point? 'User Memberships and Accepting Subscription Payments' and 'User Profiles and Relational Databases requires' shows message 'Lecture contents locked'.
No they are free. You just need to sign up for a free account to see them.
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Put the newbie gumshoes to work by tracking down simple bugs and designing simple patches to fix them. They need to be able to read other people's code to decipher and debug the coding style they are seeing before they are allowed to build any new module themselves. They need to understand other styles so they can form their own. They should be able to detect any code "smells" and reason with pros/cons why their impl…
I'm hoping there's a way to teach them problem solving BEFORE they learn to code... I feel like it should be a prerequisite to enrolling in the bootcamp. I don't remember how I learned it, but it certainly wasn't reading other people's code at my first job.
I feel like there's so much intrinsic to the code to solve the problem though, like how the debugger works, git bisect / git blame to determine where an issue might have arisen, commenting out lines of code and checking if they cause a particular issue, etc.
I don't think I learnt about problem solving in the abstract, it was more about specific applications of problem solving in the programming world.
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#56I'm looking for courses that seem to be the opposite of this... no language or programming at all, but instead looking at the process of breaking down problems. We've hired several devs out of bootcamp, and they're all taught how to code, but not how to solve problems using code... Anyone have material that might be good for this? Books, videos, courses?
How to solve it: the book is definitely teaching a generic way to break down problems.
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HTML,CSS, and Javascript are never out of fashion. The only thing he teaches that is applicable to what you said is Ruby on Rails and even then Rails has a strong foothold on the market.
Does it? RoR was the craze 2-3 years ago but I honestly haven't heard much about it as of late... Now everything seems to be Node.js
Systems that already exist need to be maintained. Why do people still write COBOL? Because it's cheaper to maintain an already in place system than to rip it out and replace it with the newest fad.
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HTML,CSS, and Javascript are never out of fashion. The only thing he teaches that is applicable to what you said is Ruby on Rails and even then Rails has a strong foothold on the market.
Does it? RoR was the craze 2-3 years ago but I honestly haven't heard much about it as of late... Now everything seems to be Node.js
Elixir is the new Node.js now
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#59I'm looking for courses that seem to be the opposite of this... no language or programming at all, but instead looking at the process of breaking down problems. We've hired several devs out of bootcamp, and they're all taught how to code, but not how to solve problems using code... Anyone have material that might be good for this? Books, videos, courses?
I have three recommendations:
Think Python: http://greenteapress.com/wp/think-python-2e/
Polya's How to Solve It: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Solve_It
Udacity's Design of Computer Programs: https://www.udacity.com/course/design-of-computer-programs--...
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> We've hired several devs out of bootcamp, and they're all taught how to code, but not how to solve problems using code... Frankly any Algorithms & Data structures book should do the trick. Choosing the right data structure is often half the solution when solving a problem. That plus SICP and a book about Discrete Math should be enough for 90% of the daily problems.
I'm not sure Algorithms & Data Structures will help you all that much in the real world. In most modern languages, all the algorithms and data structures are already implemented in the standard library, and while having heard of them is beneficial, you won't get a lot of value out of knowing how to do a binary search. The problems that I see most junior devs struggling with are at a much higher level. How do you orga…
> The problems that I see most junior devs struggling with are at a much higher level. How do you organize large scale programs? How do you make sure that different parts interact flawlessly? A book about design patterns could help here, but without experience you won't appreciate what the patterns are good for.
I couldn't disagree more. Algorithms are the base level that you build on. Anything non-trivial you will have to understand what is available to you and create something new. Take something common, doing a substring match on a list of items. If you don't have algorithms knowledge I'd bet your solution is going to adversely affect the final program.
Good choices of data structures, and solid understanding of algorithms are the units of composition in creating software. IMO
> But by far the most difficult part to wrap your head around is concurrency. How do you make sure your assumptions all hold up when multiple threads / processes / users are all doing stuff in parallel? That's really hard to understand, and you need a combination of theory and experience to master this.
Or use Rust and have the compiler check it for you, so you don't have to be a wizard.