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Re: Show HN: Publish a Markdown website in 5 minutes

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Post by hayd »

agentgt wrote: post #47
zackify wrote: post #40

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I think it's completely fine to use JavaScript here. It would be nice to have instant page pushes. But it should be rendering the site without a loading indicator. There's no reason that should be displayed

> I think it's completely fine to use JavaScript here. It would be nice to have instant page pushes. I'm not sure I follow on the instant page pushes. Are you talking about a little dialog that pops up and "says a new version of the page" kind of thing? Second is there features you saw that required Javascript (as it appeared to me most could be done with CSS)? And no I don't think it is "completely fine" to use Java…

One solution is to just send all the linked pages on first load (all the markdown content, so when transitioning they only load images, or of seen before get them "from cache").

Re: Show HN: Publish a Markdown website in 5 minutes

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Post by [deleted] »

agentgt wrote: post #47
zackify wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's completely fine to use JavaScript here. It would be nice to have instant page pushes. But it should be rendering the site without a loading indicator. There's no reason that should be displayed

> I think it's completely fine to use JavaScript here. It would be nice to have instant page pushes. I'm not sure I follow on the instant page pushes. Are you talking about a little dialog that pops up and "says a new version of the page" kind of thing? Second is there features you saw that required Javascript (as it appeared to me most could be done with CSS)? And no I don't think it is "completely fine" to use Java…

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Re: Show HN: Publish a Markdown website in 5 minutes

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Post by bluetwo »

paulddraper wrote: post #42
agentgt wrote: post #39

My major critique is that the generated sites are needlessly javascript powered. Right when I saw the "Loading" I thought oh no how many assets are going to be downloaded... for just markdown content. I guess I'm just an old web 1.0 guy but I just don't see and understand why everything must be done in a super dynamic way. Hell sometimes I like clicking on a link and watching the browser do the loading as it is confi…

Aw...this makes me so sad. I need to fix my brain. Every time I see "static sites", I think "oh great, no dynamic server or client code, just static HTML/CSS for fast loading". If I'm going to have to undergo a "compile step" for my website, it's going to do something worthwhile, darn it.

I totally agree. Make it worth the extra layers of junk.

Re: Show HN: Publish a Markdown website in 5 minutes

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Post by PlugTunin »

jamesgeck0 wrote: post #19

Reminds me of Aaron Swartz's Jottit application: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/sweatsmall

While Jottit is great and representative of yet another cool thing Aaron contributed to the world, it occasionally goes down for days, or even weeks at a time.

Re: Show HN: Publish a Markdown website in 5 minutes

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Post by kristerv »

agentgt wrote: post #39

My major critique is that the generated sites are needlessly javascript powered. Right when I saw the "Loading" I thought oh no how many assets are going to be downloaded... for just markdown content. I guess I'm just an old web 1.0 guy but I just don't see and understand why everything must be done in a super dynamic way. Hell sometimes I like clicking on a link and watching the browser do the loading as it is confi…

yep, i completely agree. The only reason it's JS heavy is because it's a MVP. If this project turns out well it will end up being a simple HTML with bare-minimum javascript.

Re: Show HN: Publish a Markdown website in 5 minutes

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Post by hayd »

devoply wrote: post #15
xchaotic wrote: post #6

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I think there is some overlap with Jekyll. Personally, Jekyll works better for me atm, as it produces static content, can be hosted for free on github or cheaply on s3 and has a bigger community and backing of github engineering. So perhaps, it's worthwhile to try and figure out jekyll-lite or something like that? For me setting up jekyll was a pain, I had to get ruby, rubygems, jekyll itself and then a manual config…

I personally use Hugo, written in Go rather than Ruby, Jekyll eats up CPU in a very weird way when you run it as a server, don't like my lap on fire after I fire it up. Also love Mkdocs, for static doc creation.

It's interesting you'd use jekyll server rather than just to generating static pages. If I wasn't just using an engine server anyway I could see the appeal of hugo.

Re: Show HN: Publish a Markdown website in 5 minutes

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Post by Yenrabbit »

kristerv wrote: post #50
milge wrote: post #16

I run uBlock and got a message saying the site is down. Disabled it and got it to work. I think one way to differentiate yourself in this kinda area is making it run without any backend tech like jekyll, python, etc. Make it run client-side only. Just my 2 cents.

good point. it's something I myself would also like. I'll have a think about this. I'll also have a look at ublock. I also use it, haven't had problems. Maybe you tried exactly when the site was down. Had overload problems for a few minutes.

It loaded fine for me, ublock in chrome on Linux. Nifty tool you've made - thanks for sharing :)

Re: Show HN: Publish a Markdown website in 5 minutes

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Post by TylerE »

gfodor wrote: post #48
devsmt wrote: post #12

Beautiful idea, you are heading in a crowded market and at the moment the app is not too differentiated, I hope you the best.

what other apps are there like this? i've wanted a "splat some markdown to the internet" app but have never found one.

Github pages?

Re: Show HN: Publish a Markdown website in 5 minutes

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Post by hayd »

tammer wrote: post #34
jplahn wrote: post #29

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I have two questions: 1) What's the problem that's being solved? 2) And what's a good answer? I'm genuinely curious because I've never considered Markdown anything more than a way to more easily render text -- which it seems to do fine. But, maybe I've just exposed myself as an average user..

1) See here[1] - problem very specifically being solved is lack of readability of HTML (and HTML being the only open portable spec for formatted text). 2) A good answer is another, more efficient open spec for encoding formatted text - meaning I can use any app to format my text, then open it in another app and be sure I have full fidelity. This fidelity would be constrained by a requirement of HTML output. [1]: http…

Isn't the answer CommonMark?

Re: Show HN: Publish a Markdown website in 5 minutes

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Post by yatsyk »

kristerv wrote: post #5
getup8 wrote: post #4

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Can you give a quick summary of how it works? Who are you using to host? Didn't see any info in the About section. Realize you're saying you don't want to add any features but some quick mobile optimization to make the links more readable / clickable on a small screen would go a long way.

Sure. It's a meteor.js app with React.js at the front. Namecheap to buy domains and Braintree to handle payments. Hosting on Scalingo (awesome service btw). Hmm.. what else.. the chat plugin is tawk.to - be sure to check that out. I'll be sure to improve the mobile view soon, thanks for the comment!

Thank you for technical details!

Why do you use braintree but not use namecheap for everything? Avoiding lock-in or some technical reasons?

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