A list of modern C++ features

Post by pjmlp » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 5:54 PM UTC

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How specially Ada?! The only thing Ada has thrown away was GC support that no compiler vendor has ever bothered to implement. What other features were thrown away across Ada83, Ada95, Ada2005 and Ada2012? If I present you Ada random code snippet X, are you sure you will be able to say which language version it requires? Also Python is the poster child of what happens when you throw compatibility away.

>Also Python is the poster child of what happens when you throw compatibility away. And what, exactly, happened? For years I avoided Python3. Updating my code base was a hassle I did not want to deal with. Finally, a few months ago, I had some spare time and took the dive. And nothing bad happened. I did not even spend hours on it. At this point, all the libraries I need exist for Python3, and the automated tools upd…

Post by BeetleB » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 6:45 PM UTC

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>Also Python is the poster child of what happens when you throw compatibility away. And what, exactly, happened? For years I avoided Python3. Updating my code base was a hassle I did not want to deal with. Finally, a few months ago, I had some spare time and took the dive. And nothing bad happened. I did not even spend hours on it. At this point, all the libraries I need exist for Python3, and the automated tools upd…

Of a community dragging their feets while avoiding to upgrade at all costs, with developers being forced to backport features into the 2.x branch.

Post by leshow » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 7:44 PM UTC

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Rust?

A very heavily biased rookie response. Not trying to be snarky. Rust would be an obvious choice for what I described. It's been on my personal list for a while to learn Rust and make use of it. I think I will pretty soon. I've been demotivated (to start) by reading over here on HN or elsewhere about how much of a learning curve it is to learn Rust. Perhaps, it was the bias that I already know what C++ was like in ter…

Post by RotsiserMho » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 8:47 PM UTC

reacharavindh wrote: post #43

I really wish a group of really smart dev get together and come up with a new language based just on the modern C++. Perhaps even call it MC++ (Modern C++). Make it's syntax as simple and easy to learn as Python and yet give us the performance close to the compiled C++. I'd take that knowing very well that I can't do all the powerful stuff I could with C, yet I have a safe and idiot-proof language to work with in my…

Post by AnimalMuppet » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 9:44 PM UTC

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> C is a mine-field of devastating design flaws which have caused many people to die because of decades old decisions made on a whim... Wow. Hyperbole much? I get that you don't like C, but you sound like a raving lunatic who is completely unconnected with reality. Devastating design flaws? Flaws I can agree with. Devastating? That sounds a bit overstated. Caused many people to die? I call BS. (Yes, I'm pretty sure y…

First of all what if I am lunatic xD There are so many parts of C that are unsafe that a secondary tool is needed to have an reasonable type-checking and that tends to be devastating if they can be easily avoided by even safety critical engineers. https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~koopman/pubs/koopman14_toyota_ua_... "Toyota does not claim to have followed MISRA Guidelines" And honestly I dont think we agree on what "a few"…