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Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by ahoy » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:05 PM UTC

SolaceQuantum wrote: post #17

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

The working poor voted for Hillary. Trump's support comes from households making $50,00 or greater.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by curiousgeorgio » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:05 PM UTC

phreack wrote: post #27

As an outsider, it is painfully clear that I should not try to move my business to the US at this point. Europe's looking better than ever now for tech startups.

For what it's worth, Trump's views are likely to be more advantageous for tech startups than Clinton's would have been.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by mc32 » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:05 PM UTC

TulliusCicero wrote: post #21

gragas wrote: post #11

I'll say this again: Does this not prove that "diverse" liberalism isn't so diverse after all? Shouldn't a diverse group of people have seen this coming? Or is liberalism actually systematically excluding people by labelling them as "racist" and "sexist", when in fact they're just fiscal and social conservatives?

> Does this not prove that "diverse" liberalism isn't so diverse after all? Shouldn't a diverse group of people have seen this coming? Even people on the GOP side seemed to accept that Trump was going to lose, so I'd say 'no'. Sometimes the polls are wrong, sometimes you just get surprising results.

Interestingly the Trump campaign was complaining about those polls and used that as a basis for their "rigged" claims. So I'd be curious how they produced their numbers internally that showed them ahead in tossup states.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by milesskorpen » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:05 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #20

Note that the last chart ("Clinton’s support from minorities fell short") seems to be erroneous, in that the graphic does not match the text. I think the NYT article glosses over the real story this election: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-the-lat... ("Hispanic voters were supposed to be one of Clinton’s blue firewalls—but one in three ended up splitting for Trump.")

That was projected, though. It was a big issue that Clinton wasn't driving as significant African American turnout because they go 95% Democrat, whereas Hispanics were about 70% Democrat so you'd need a lot more of them to make up the difference.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by user837387 » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:05 PM UTC

He got elected on all these promises.

1- Build the wall and make Mexico pay for it

2- Deportation Force on day one

3- Repeal obamacare

4- Renegotiate NAFTA

5- Bring back coal

6- Reduce taxes for the rich

7- Ban muslims

8- Prosecuting Hillary Clinton

9- Bring back American companies to the USA

10- Etc.

The Senate and the House are Republicans and the Supreme court will lean republican after his appointment.

What do you guys think he is going to follow through on and the effects if he does or doesn't?

And please note that lots of people thought he could not become president and now he is. So any of these things are possible now. Do not just dismiss any of these things. They are all possible.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by helthanatos » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:06 PM UTC

moultano wrote: post #38

SolaceQuantum wrote: post #17

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

Dramatically increase the amount of housing in urban areas so more people can move there and away from the places without any industry left.

There's a reason cities vote the way they do... Cities are terrible places of hate and murder and disenfranchisement...

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by 40acres » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:06 PM UTC

Trump is going to erase the entire Obama administration, a decent amount of Obama's impact was felt through executive order, all it takes is a signature to erase that.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by happytrails » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:07 PM UTC

The sun will rise in the east and set in the west. We will keep moving forward. We have systemic issues we need to address in the country and if they don't get addressed in this cycle it'll get worse in the next. We have major income inequality. We have an issue with tax avoidance and we have a problem with US Companies dumping workers for foreign labor. We also have a healthcare issue that needs to be solved. I doubt this Republican majority will be able to touch any of it but these are still problems and will remain so until we find a solution.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by ynniv » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:07 PM UTC

SolaceQuantum wrote: post #17

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

Historically speaking, war is very effective at reducing unemployment. I'm not advocating it, but others will soon.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by vinhboy » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:08 PM UTC

yolesaber wrote: post #43

I'd argue you are clueless. Trump has been sued several times for the discrimination against black people, he fired black people from his casinos and moved them to the back, he INSISTS TO THIS DAY that the Central Park Five are guilty despite DNA evidence, he jokes and also brags about literally molesting women. People like you disgust me. Stop acting like his words and actions don't matter.

Thank you for saying this. I needed this today.

I am so damn sick of people trying to wiggle out of the "racist" label.

Economic anxiety is not an excuse for racism.