Saw this set of polls from @zedshaw on twitter and had JUST read this article. Seems relevant. https://twitter.com/zedshaw/status/795687259861172224
Wow. That poll seems to indicate the only way most folks get a raise is by quitting their job and getting a different one. :(
Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing jobs
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Re: Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing jobs
#52Don't ask, don't get. And asking is the only thing you can do. Almost never will your boss/manager approach you and offer you a significant raise, even if you're a kickass developer who is crucial to the company. Just ask. Still, asking will only get you that far. I got $80->$90/hr raise by asking. But then I got a 40% increase by changing jobs. And if you're consulting, and are confident enough, you can just raise y…
Or ask, don't get, stay and hope.
It all depends on your personality.
Re: Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing jobs
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've never seen it happen successfully. I've done it at least half a dozen times in my career. I was told "the maximum we can give is a $7k raise since there is a fixed pool for raises in the department." I said if I quit and you have to replace me, not only will you have to hire 2 devs to replace me (as I pulled dev and sysops duty) and pay them market salaries, you will have to pay a recruiter 20-30%. They still wo…
Same here. If you're somewhat good, getting a new developer will always be expensive and it is a risk for the company. The new developer needs to familiarise himself with everything and what happens if he's actually worse than you? Of course no sane boss will ever tell you this. Just nag them and don't accept "no" for an answer.
Re: Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing jobs
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've never seen it happen successfully. I've done it at least half a dozen times in my career. I was told "the maximum we can give is a $7k raise since there is a fixed pool for raises in the department." I said if I quit and you have to replace me, not only will you have to hire 2 devs to replace me (as I pulled dev and sysops duty) and pay them market salaries, you will have to pay a recruiter 20-30%. They still wo…
It's often a bit true though. I bet your direct manager didn't have that authority himself and had to go up higher and justify it to either his boss or his boss's boss.
Re: Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing jobs
#55Saw this set of polls from @zedshaw on twitter and had JUST read this article. Seems relevant. https://twitter.com/zedshaw/status/795687259861172224
Re: Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing jobs
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
You'll be given the raise, but you'll be let go very soon.
Being let go (not fired) is awesome though. You get severance pay on top of your new higher salary. So you go and find an even higher-paying gig.
Re: Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing jobs
#57You should always approach the negotiations with an upper hand - an offer from somewhere else. If it doesn't go well, just move.
This can be an effective tactic (meaning it could get you a raise), but it's not my preferred method. I prefer to focus on the situation itself without bringing in that sort of leverage because of the impact it can have on the way you're perceived at your company, by your manager, by your teammates, etc. This strategy can work, but it's a little riskier than focusing on the value and working with your manager to alig…
So when an engineer plays this card he tends to assume others will see it as ruthless.
But do management really think this? Do they really drink the kool aide and think less of you? Or do they just see this as part of the game, and only the underlings think like this.
Re: Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing jobs
#58If only things were so easy. Our department gets allocated $XX,XXX each year for raises. My boss has to split that among eight people. If I were to get a 5% bump like OP recommends, other people would get nothing. Sounds like typical D-grade manager motivation. "Everyone work yourself to death and I might throw you a bone after one year!" I'd rather give up that 5% to have a sane work-life balance. It's common knowle…
It is worth nothing that another way to get a raise is to earn a promotion :)
Re: Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing jobs
#59If only things were so easy. Our department gets allocated $XX,XXX each year for raises. My boss has to split that among eight people. If I were to get a 5% bump like OP recommends, other people would get nothing. Sounds like typical D-grade manager motivation. "Everyone work yourself to death and I might throw you a bone after one year!" I'd rather give up that 5% to have a sane work-life balance. It's common knowle…
What happens if your boss goes to their boss and says, "Hey, one of my employees is planning to jump ship for salary reasons, can we do anything here?"
Re: Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing jobs
#60You should always approach the negotiations with an upper hand - an offer from somewhere else. If it doesn't go well, just move.
You'll be given the raise, but you'll be let go very soon.