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Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by DoofusOfDeath »

matwood wrote: post #23
tambourine_man wrote: post #22

Unfortunately, no Photoshop, no go

Or Lightroom. And please do not say Darktable is a replacement. Maybe one day, but not yet.

Agreed on Lightroom and Photoshop as sticking points, sadly.

Windows 10 with forced updates is too big if a reliability risk, especially when we're under deadline. Even if we could accept the spyware.

MBP could work, but it's very expensive, and the 16GB limit would be painful.

Mac Pro is expensive and somewhat outdated, and also is not portable.

Windows as a guest on Linux may work for us, but I'm still unclear on how that will impact color calibration / transforms.

I wish Adobe would just offer CS for Linux. Even at twice the price it would be our best option.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by Void_ »

sschueller wrote: post #14

The only reason I am still using a Mac is because I need to be able to compile iPhone apps and unlike android I can only do this in OSX. All my other tools are already available in Linux or even Windows.

Sounds like you only need it for compilation. Do you develop in Xcode? What IDE/tool do you use?

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by toyg »

kybernetyk wrote: post #33

So I went to their main page to download an ISO to give it a try in a VM. They hid the download button really well: You have to type in "0" into the "how much you'd like to pay" field for the "Purchase" button to change to "Download". I mean I understand that open source projects need funding. But if you want people to try your niche OS at least make it obvious how to download it. Ask for money later after people had…

This is a long-standing criticism of Elementary. I think they initially didn't even provide a way to get a free download, and eventually settled for the current UI. Basically the founder-owner is adamant that someone has to pay for his time, and tbh I don't begrudge him.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by matthewking »

kornakiewicz wrote: post #35

I'm long term Linux user and I played with Elementary sometime ago. While just after installation everything is great and beautiful, it changed shortly when I need to install apps outside the ecosystem. Experience gives you feeling I could compare to using old-java application on Windows 10.

Along with seemingly everyone else, I had a quick look at my options to migrate away from Apple over the last few days. First thing I looked for was a decent mail app, was immediately put off the whole idea, exactly as you describe.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

pmlnr wrote: post #45
Void_ wrote: post #39

I'm really hoping this is just a phase. Hoping that Apple will reduce prices of new laptops and we'll be back to normal. Right now everybody is using Macs. Walk into the Bay Area coffee shop, you see Macs everywhere. I love that. I build desktop software for Macs (focuslist.co). My apps are prettier than any others. They are easier and faster to use. This is the reason why people pay me $5 while they can get the job…

> Take Mac away and high quality desktop apps will go away. Well... no. Ubuntu, Gnome, KDE, XFCE; they are all high quality desktops. Don't mix the desktop with the applications you're running on it. > We'll have to endure multi-platform Electron stuff. Now that is indeed a real issue, and yes, ugh. Edit: I've misread the original, sorry, so adding a few things: if you're using the default apps or the ones built for…

They meant "apps that are high quality", not "apps for high-quality desktops".

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by laktak »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #38
anondon wrote: post #12

The software is there, but what about the hardware to go with it? The only laptops comparable to Macbook Pro hardware quality and battery life are the Dell XPS series and the Thinkpad X1. I feel there is a serious shortage of good laptops with linux pre-installed that the non-technical user can pickup and start using.

How about the Surface?

There is no 15" version and I doubt you can install Linux without a hack.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by pmlnr »

matwood wrote: post #23
tambourine_man wrote: post #22

Unfortunately, no Photoshop, no go

Or Lightroom. And please do not say Darktable is a replacement. Maybe one day, but not yet.

The truth about PS and Lightroom is that many of their users wouldn't really need them.

A workflow of, for example, Rawtherapee + GIMP would be more than enough for basic to upper intermediate tasks to replace Lightroom with. ( No, I'm not talking bs, my wife is actually using this for work; just like Mixxx is usable for professional DJing. ) There is also digiKam, which is rather impressive; it is lacking a few features, yet, but not as many as you'd think.

PS & Lightroom is everywhere, that is what's tought in schools; it's the MS Office of photo & design, and it shouldn't be.

There are, of course, situations, when the all-in-one PS is needed, but it's really, really rare.

Give digiKam and GIMP a go, but give them weeks, not minutes. Most of those who run away are only literally trying them for hours at max while these are utterly different tools.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by Freak_NL »

anondon wrote: post #12

The software is there, but what about the hardware to go with it? The only laptops comparable to Macbook Pro hardware quality and battery life are the Dell XPS series and the Thinkpad X1. I feel there is a serious shortage of good laptops with linux pre-installed that the non-technical user can pickup and start using.

System76 is a solid choice (I love my four year old Gazelle, with 16Gb or RAM from the start), although ordering a laptop there is slightly cumbersome if you are living outside of North America.

https://system76.com/laptops

The build quality of their offerings seems to get better with each successive generation too, and of course everything works out of the box.

I just wish they would partner with someone in the EU; that way shipping costs, VAT, and tariffs can be handled more transparently.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by [deleted] »

kybernetyk wrote: post #33

So I went to their main page to download an ISO to give it a try in a VM. They hid the download button really well: You have to type in "0" into the "how much you'd like to pay" field for the "Purchase" button to change to "Download". I mean I understand that open source projects need funding. But if you want people to try your niche OS at least make it obvious how to download it. Ask for money later after people had…

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