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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by imron »

duaneb wrote: post #28
felixrieseberg wrote: post #13

I cannot understand how a company like Apple, known and proven to build exceptional hardware, won't let me use my iPhone headset with the new MacBook.

What is an iPhone headset? How does it differ from other headsets? Edit: thank you. Does that mean the female lightning connector would only be used for headphones? Yeah, talk about vendor lockin and connector deprecation.

It no longer uses a standard headphone plug.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by dsl »

manuelflara wrote: post #32
dchuk wrote: post #12

(Posted in another thread, that probably will not make it as high as this) I think conceptually this is really neat, but it could potentially suffer from one major flaw: I hardly ever look down at my keyboard. A flat, digital screen containing changing buttons does not cater well to touch typists, of which you can reasonably assume most are who use a macbook pro. Touch ID is sweet though.

Yeah, I thought the same thing (specially since 95% of the time I'm using my laptop, I actually have it closed, hooked up to a screen and with external keyboard and mouse). But I guess this will be useful for most casual users, since they often look down to their keyboards (and to be honest, the keyboard and the screen aren't that far apart in a laptop) and who don't usually use/know hotkeys for common actions they p…

> since 95% of the time I'm using my laptop, I actually have it closed, hooked up to a screen and with external keyboard and mouse

I can't believe they put a radio in my car since 95% of the time I just leave it in my driveway and take the bus.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by beefield »

pawelduda wrote: post #27
bluehazed wrote: post #15

Vim users: best of luck.

This is a nice excuse to start using ctrl + [ rather than esc key. It is even better if you remap your caps lock key to ctrl. :)

In non-english keyboards [ is often behind some key combination (e.g. altgr - 8). Compared to just clicking esc (or remapped caps lock) it is difficult for me to see how people with these keyboards would be willing to go for ctrl-[.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by falcolas »

matt4077 wrote: post #14

HN is full of people who touch-type F9, I know. But I'm pretty excited about the toolbar. In anything but my primary editor, it will dramatically increase my ability to get by keyboard-only. For 99% of people, the increased discoverability will dramatically increase their ability to use shortcuts. And even the other 1% don't spend all their time within a set of applications small enough to memorize all shortcuts.

Sure, so long as you're OK looking down at your keyboard to find the right function on the touchbar every time you want to use it. Better, IMO, to use a mapped key chord.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by lostgame »

jasonjei wrote: post #11
avitzurel wrote: post #3

I can't get over the ESC key. I need to experience it in order to make a final decision but even though it's "there" the position looks awkward.

In typical Apple fashion, there's a dongle for that. Sarcasm aside, I wonder how well this will work if you use Boot Camp. Does the TouchBar revert to a normal function bar when OS isn't in control of it? Let's say I don't use VMware, and I want to boot into Linux or Windows, what happens to the TouchBar? Installing Linux or non-OS X operating system could be made more difficult without function keys. And yes, VIM an…

Not sure why this is downvoted. It's one of the more serious technical concerns I've seen here.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by ihuman »

blocke wrote: post #24

The touch bar examples shown are a usability disaster. You're going to hide UI from the screen and make me keep looking at the keyboard to find functionality? I stopped looking at the keyboard every 10 seconds when I learned how to touch type. The presenter spent most of his time looking at the keyboard and not the screen. This gimmick will disappear when Apple decides a touch screen is needed to complete the slow me…

What UI are they hiding? The ones they've shown are all new ones, or shortcuts to existing ones (like how the function keys were used).

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by godmodus »

so it's more a toy than a work computer. They boosted the "entertainment" factor - nothing else really.

Lenovo ruinning the thinkpad, Apple turning pros into toys. it's been a harsh few years. - i think there's slowly a good hole to fill in terms of proper workstation laptops that are modular and robust.

are people still hanging on to their 2012 pros? last i checked they still are.

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