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Also what amazed me is that he would casually threaten to strike Russia. It seems that no one considers these attacks as an act of war. But that's what they are.
It's espionage, not necessarily an act of war. The US government is threatening to strike back with more espionage. (If they haven't already...)
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#52The U.S. has changed the rules of engagment to state that any cyber attack can be met with real military counterattack. If the Russians are behind it, after being emboldened by Ukraine and Syria, the United States has to respond. I'm not saying all out war but I am saying we have to show the Russians that this affects everything we are about. It affects our businesses, our elections, and our way of life. I am saying…
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's espionage, not necessarily an act of war. The US government is threatening to strike back with more espionage. (If they haven't already...)
Espionage is stealing data. Disrupting utility services is an act of war, whether it is shutting down an electricity power plant, cutting communications, or any other act of sabotage.
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#54We seem to be needing more concerted action on what is a consumer minimum standard for an internet connected device. Consumer devices have to be more secure because if the low user skill level - and interest. I am always reluctant to say "there should be a law against it" but frankly if we cannot mandate minimum standards of uogradbility and security for devices we will just keep handing over our devices to the first…
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#55It's fashionable to blame Russia these days, but what country manufactures the most IoT devices, and has the type of government that could mandate backdoor access?
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#56Why? Let them invade another country, let them hack our infrastructure next such as our water supply? You think letting it go or doing nothing is the answer? This guy Putin is no different than Hitler, let him do this sort of thing and you will have much bigger problems in a couple of years.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think so. Modern botnets are mostly made of devices that are operating 24/7 already, such as compromised IP cameras, set top boxes, SOHO routers, IoT devices, etc. The energy spent for TCP/IP stack usage is negligible at best, even when pushing those embedded CPUs to 100%.
> The energy spent for TCP/IP stack usage is negligible at best. Not true, especially en masse. Even less true for wirelessly connected devices.
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#58Irony alert: > "But technology providers in the United States could suffer blowback. As Dyn fell under recurring attacks on Friday, Mr. York, the chief strategist, said such assaults were the reason so many companies are pushing at least parts of their infrastructure to cloud computing networks, to decentralize their systems and make them harder to attack." Pushing your infrastructure to cloud computing is not decent…
It decentralises that one company's DNS -- instead of having one or two DNS servers, perhaps at two sites, they now have 20, at 20 sites. If someone wants to target them, they're probably better protected.
But it's the same 20 servers as a million other companies, so the chance of those servers being a target is much greater.
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#59Re: Internet Attack Spreads, Disrupting Major Websites
#60Why? Let them invade another country, let them hack our infrastructure next such as our water supply? You think letting it go or doing nothing is the answer? This guy Putin is no different than Hitler, let him do this sort of thing and you will have much bigger problems in a couple of years.
"War? Whatever, so be it!". Right?
A complaint often surfaces from those that have actually lived through wars: How disconnected people are from war. Your country (I'm assuming) has been at war with various bits of the middle east for over a decade and you are not suffering the consequences. It's all remote for you. It's all drones, or "those men and women giving their life for our country gosh jolly gee we are so proud of them, so much respect".
It's not you, it's not your life, not your family's life, not your friends, your city, your streets being bombed, civilians being shot in the streets - none of that is what you've been through. The US has been exporting death, bringing none of it back home.
A warmongering country that is completely disconnected from the consequences; this is what leads to the "potentially nuclear war? pah, so be it, my internet is down anyway" attitude.