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Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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Actually what happens in China is that homegrown tech companies will take over the market space left by Western ones, which the government is perfectly happy to let happen because 1. It keeps the tech industry domestic 2. The servers are physically inside China, guaranteeing them access to the data This is why I've always thought that the Great Firewall's purpose is not only censorship, but also a form of Internet-ag…

Yes, but they wouldn't be able to do that abruptly. That's why they are now forcing all American companies to create "joint ventures" with the local Chinese companies, which can steal the American technology, and then say 10 years later, the American part can be removed. And American companies seem to go along with it, thinking they have no choice. They do, but they're too scared to lose the Chinese market to risk an…

The IT industry is not special. It's not different from other industries that have been nationalized or have to do what the government of the countries they work into wants. The only way out is to somewhat control those governments (good luck with China) or operate within mutual trade agreements signed at government level. Again, China put itself into an almost unassailable negotiation position having so many of the industries of the world.

What I see is a trend to rebuild on the Internet the same borders that are enforced in the physical world. Some countries will keep their internets open to each others, others are already closing them down partially. They're probably putting them at a disadvantage, especially the small ones, but the governments usually only cares about keeping their seats.

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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Lot of them. You can see a list here: https://reestr.rublacklist.net/

That's... casinos and porn? Where do I sign up for a degeneracy-free country?

I heard there's a country where Entartung ("degeneracy") is illegal and in some cases punishable by death... oh wait, that's Nazi Germany, never mind.

Seriously, if you look at the countries that try to ban "degenerate" activity (which itself is a matter of opinion), the list isn't all that pretty. Singapore is probably the only one that's livable, but only if you relish the idea of living in a full-on police state.

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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This is so annoying for us. I'm not using Dropbox, Google Drive or OneDrive but GitHub is the tool we use the most as a software agency. We've set-up a VPN server for our team for the moment. Only good thing coming from this is that I've discovered a software called Pritunl today which made setting up the VPN pretty easy.

Streisand [ https://github.com/jlund/streisand ] works quite well too.

If you can access github...

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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Someone on Reddit highlighted that the block seems to key off of the SSL SNI header, regardless of which IP you try to connect to. There must be some Deep Packet Inspection going on here, then? https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/56h0s3/they_just_bl... Is the blocking able to handle stuff like fragrouter where the TCP stream is broken down into 1byte payload packets?

We started seeing more sophisticated DPI capabilities after the Feb '14 internet regulations[0] that required ISPs to block by URL and content strings IMO blocking so many sites so broadly is a sign that their DPI is failing, because their preference seems to be to block as narrowly as possible because of negative economic effects. [0] http://aa.com.tr/en/turkey/turkey-s-general-assembly-ratifie...

With ssl the best they can do is this host level blocking unless they perform mitm attacks.

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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Someone warned about this like yesterday... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12668079

Thats was not really valid. Every site is technical. There is far more business documents in dropbox than in github. Plus the purpose of the leakers is to create disruption, and apparently it works.

For people working in a turkey as programmers I'm pretty sure not having access to GitHub and Dropbox is not great. Surely for political statements you can use any stupid host.

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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Someone on Reddit highlighted that the block seems to key off of the SSL SNI header, regardless of which IP you try to connect to. There must be some Deep Packet Inspection going on here, then? https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/56h0s3/they_just_bl... Is the blocking able to handle stuff like fragrouter where the TCP stream is broken down into 1byte payload packets?

Snort can at least get you close. A custom snort module maybe able to do the specific cert: https://www.snort.org/faq/readme-ssl

It's stream5 preprocessor can deal with most evasion techniques as it does full tcp stream reconstruction.

http://manual-snort-org.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/n...

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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Does using a VPN put people under any kind of threat like in the UAE?

Till today, I've never heard anyone sued over a situation like using vpn but I'm sure we'll see that in not so distant future. For almost a year, I've been forced to use vpn at least couple of times a month for a similar problem.

Glad to hear that you live in a country where people generally have to be sued in order to be punished.

Re: Dropbox, Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive blocked in Turkey following leaks

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Or a decentralized github service ;-)

Maybe a distributed version control system to power it? ;)

You mean something like this?

https://github.com/clehner/git-ssb

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