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Libreboot – A free BIOS or UEFI replacement

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Re: Libreboot – A free BIOS or UEFI replacement

#51
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If I want to hack on Libreboot on a separate machine from my primary one, what's a good laptop to get? Are there laptops that are close to working but not on the HCL yet?

You're better off using coreboot, libreboot is just a set of patches removing non-libre boards and microcode support.

Re: Libreboot – A free BIOS or UEFI replacement

#52
post #44
post #36

After the latest drama I think libreboot is driven be oversensitive and irresponsible developer. Prove me wrong?

I don't quite understand why it is making the front page again we should stop giving publicity to this drama queen, SJW or whatever she should be called. If there was discrimination this should be taken to court instead of trying to get mob justice by wrongfully using a platform that is not meant for that and doxxing people without proof.

Down-voted. When we criticised Eich, there was so much noise that the only thing which matters is his technical merits. So how is the developer and his or her attitudes relevant now? Why the double standards?

Re: Libreboot – A free BIOS or UEFI replacement

#53
post #33

I was reading about buying a laptop with libreboot bootloader but then I saw a whole section to screw paywall. https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/ https://minifree.org/paypal/ Their laptops are cheap and with good configuration except for CPU and graphics card. I will have hard time running Matlab on such a machine, so I cannot make that investment. Better CPU please especially when your laptop is 2.2 kg in…

I would not recommend their services at all, although I own one of their products. Leah is extremely unresponsive, when I ordered mine it took over 2 months for it to be shipped with no prior indication of this (it should've taken at most 3 weeks to arrive at my home), and any email response from Minifree took at least 3 weeks. Oh, and Leah billed me UK taxes instead of Dutch taxes as per the EU webshop rules, so tha…

Regarding the taxes (referring to the EU only), Minifree didn't do anything wrong: If you buy hardware as an end-consumer, you're being billed the taxes of the originating country (in this case, the UK).

That's different for most services, e.g. if you ship a laptop to Minifree and they just flash it and send it back, they have to bill the taxes of your country. If they do any of it differently, they're doing a mistake.

There are other companies that can provide you with Libreboot, blob-free coreboot or other libre boot solutions on your Thinkpad if you're unhappy with their service (according to your experience that seems to be an appropriate response).

Minifree doesn't stand for the quality standard for the whole "libre community" as Albert Heijn (a supermarket chain) doesn't set the gold standards for the whole supermarket industry.

Re: Libreboot – A free BIOS or UEFI replacement

#54
post #33

I was reading about buying a laptop with libreboot bootloader but then I saw a whole section to screw paywall. https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/ https://minifree.org/paypal/ Their laptops are cheap and with good configuration except for CPU and graphics card. I will have hard time running Matlab on such a machine, so I cannot make that investment. Better CPU please especially when your laptop is 2.2 kg in…

It seems highly unlikely that someone who made the effort flashing Libreboot to their laptop or buying a librebooted laptop from a supplier, would install proprietary software (Matlab) on their laptop because that misses the whole point.

Making some performance concessions and receiving something wholly libre in return is fine for the target audience.

Re: Libreboot – A free BIOS or UEFI replacement

#55
post #4

If I want to hack on Libreboot on a separate machine from my primary one, what's a good laptop to get? Are there laptops that are close to working but not on the HCL yet?

I put libreboot on an old 2006-era X60s, and it wasn't too much trouble once I'd worked out which instructions to follow and which ROM to use (which was not obvious). That appears to be the best supported laptop, and you can pick them up very cheaply on EBay.

Picture: https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2016/04/10/libreboot-on-my-x60s/

Re: Libreboot – A free BIOS or UEFI replacement

#56
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't quite understand why it is making the front page again we should stop giving publicity to this drama queen, SJW or whatever she should be called. If there was discrimination this should be taken to court instead of trying to get mob justice by wrongfully using a platform that is not meant for that and doxxing people without proof.

Down-voted. When we criticised Eich, there was so much noise that the only thing which matters is his technical merits. So how is the developer and his or her attitudes relevant now? Why the double standards?

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Re: Libreboot – A free BIOS or UEFI replacement

#57
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't quite understand why it is making the front page again we should stop giving publicity to this drama queen, SJW or whatever she should be called. If there was discrimination this should be taken to court instead of trying to get mob justice by wrongfully using a platform that is not meant for that and doxxing people without proof.

Down-voted. When we criticised Eich, there was so much noise that the only thing which matters is his technical merits. So how is the developer and his or her attitudes relevant now? Why the double standards?

Did Eich ever use Mozilla for political ambitions?

Re: Libreboot – A free BIOS or UEFI replacement

#58
post #44
post #36

After the latest drama I think libreboot is driven be oversensitive and irresponsible developer. Prove me wrong?

I don't quite understand why it is making the front page again we should stop giving publicity to this drama queen, SJW or whatever she should be called. If there was discrimination this should be taken to court instead of trying to get mob justice by wrongfully using a platform that is not meant for that and doxxing people without proof.

Pretty disgusting comment right there. Funny how we never hear about drama 'kings' and how we should stop giving them publicity, eh?

Re: Libreboot – A free BIOS or UEFI replacement

#59
post #54
post #33

I was reading about buying a laptop with libreboot bootloader but then I saw a whole section to screw paywall. https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/ https://minifree.org/paypal/ Their laptops are cheap and with good configuration except for CPU and graphics card. I will have hard time running Matlab on such a machine, so I cannot make that investment. Better CPU please especially when your laptop is 2.2 kg in…

It seems highly unlikely that someone who made the effort flashing Libreboot to their laptop or buying a librebooted laptop from a supplier, would install proprietary software (Matlab) on their laptop because that misses the whole point. Making some performance concessions and receiving something wholly libre in return is fine for the target audience.

Maybe they are ok with proprietary software in a ring3 user mode context, but prefee open software on the lower cpu ring levels?

Re: Libreboot – A free BIOS or UEFI replacement

#60
post #58
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't quite understand why it is making the front page again we should stop giving publicity to this drama queen, SJW or whatever she should be called. If there was discrimination this should be taken to court instead of trying to get mob justice by wrongfully using a platform that is not meant for that and doxxing people without proof.

Pretty disgusting comment right there. Funny how we never hear about drama 'kings' and how we should stop giving them publicity, eh?

I didn't know I was making a disgusting comment by using a common English expression that applies to both men and women.
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