I'm not familiar with RethinkDB - what was their monetization strategy?
The not-yet-launched but almost ready Horizon Cloud was also going to be a route for monetization. Unfortunately, it just didn't quite make it :/
RethinkDB is shutting down
51–60 of 457 posts
Re: RethinkDB is shutting down
#52[deleted]
Re: RethinkDB is shutting down
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is why the key product should be open-source. Else it's too scary to invest in it: what if the company behind it folds, and you end up in a dead end? Only certain super-behemoths like Microsoft or Apple can afford to have their infrastructure products being closed-source.
It works the opposite way too. If a project is open source then who is committed to helping you support and maintain it? You essentially need to have a team to do it. If there's a company behind it, it gives you assurances. Especially for a small company that needs to focus on building a product rather than committing features and bug fixes to their database
You can have an open source product with a company behind it, they're not incompatible.
Re: RethinkDB is shutting down
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Okay...but if Rethink couldn't make their business self-sustaining, why would Mongo when there are a plethora of other open source databases/datastores that can do Mongo's job better than Mongo? EDIT: We'll just wait for Mongo to burn through all their cash then.
Because having the better product (often) doesn't matter: see Windows vs Apple in the early days. Mongo has a strong community, which translates into a plethora of articles/blog-posts/tutorials/etc that secures its niche. From there it's possible to make money with things like consulting fees to help fix the problems it created in the first place. It's all about execution. Case and point: I know what (purportedly) ma…
Well, real streaming queries, not just oplog tails for starters... a document database with the ability to do on-server joins. There's a few other things, but those are the two biggest ones over most others in the same mold... All that applies to Mongo, applies to rethink.
Oh, yeah... and the ability to do shard + redundancy, where mongo you're either or have to do both. So scaling works a bit better. The admin tooling for rethink is better than anything I've really used in non-sql databases. And frankly even better than db admin tools, including sql based ones.
It's just a really great, stable database with really good scaling for the majority of use cases.
Re: RethinkDB is shutting down
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because having the better product (often) doesn't matter: see Windows vs Apple in the early days. Mongo has a strong community, which translates into a plethora of articles/blog-posts/tutorials/etc that secures its niche. From there it's possible to make money with things like consulting fees to help fix the problems it created in the first place. It's all about execution. Case and point: I know what (purportedly) ma…
Well, real streaming queries, not just oplog tails for starters... a document database with the ability to do on-server joins. There's a few other things, but those are the two biggest ones over most others in the same mold... All that applies to Mongo, applies to rethink. Oh, yeah... and the ability to do shard + redundancy, where mongo you're either or have to do both. So scaling works a bit better. The admin tooli…
That really wasn't the point.
Re: RethinkDB is shutting down
#56Very sad to hear, but hopefully the software will continue to be developed in an open source format. Keep this in mind when you invest in a certain technology: some organizations, especially nonprofits (for example, the Apache Software Foundation, Python Software Foundation, the new Node Foundation) are probably going to support and develop their software for extended periods of time relative to, say, a startup or fo…
[deleted]
Re: RethinkDB is shutting down
#57I've been working on a Clojure RethinkDB driver for about a year now, and I've always been incredibly impressed with the Rethink team. Their openness, friendliness, and helpfulness when asking questions has always been outstanding. You'll be sorely missed all.
Re: RethinkDB is shutting down
#58I wish RethinkDB had published a performance benchmark against Hadoop. It'd be enough to show the world how ahead of its times RethinkDB is.
I also wish I knew what RethinkDB's investors are thinking.
Re: RethinkDB is shutting down
#59Bummer. Had Rethink in my list of things to eventually tinker-with. Is it stable where it should still be considered as a viable choice for your tech stack, or is this pretty much a deal-breaker?
It is hard to tell. I am wondering the same thing after having massively invested in building code on top of RethinkDB. I am not optimistic at all. At a minimum I wish Slava had announced a plan to relicense under BSD or Apache. This is the moment when he could do it and he hasn't.
Re: RethinkDB is shutting down
#60Bummer. Had Rethink in my list of things to eventually tinker-with. Is it stable where it should still be considered as a viable choice for your tech stack, or is this pretty much a deal-breaker?
[deleted]