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Re: An AWS Region is coming to France

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pavel_lishin wrote: post #39
solatic wrote: post #35

There is STILL no AWS region in Israel. All Internet traffic in and out of Israel goes through three undersea cables connecting the country with Turkey, Greece, and Italy, and as such suffer from the kind of lag that happens when you're separated from your destination server by a couple thousand kilometers, usually more. There are no local cloud providers and the local entrepreneurial culture (which is MASSIVE for su…

> the local entrepreneurial culture (which is MASSIVE for such a small country) > (the local VPS shops have little incentive to upgrade) > Do we have to beg for Amazon to come here?! I'm surprised nobody has stepped in and built out their own cloud offering.

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Re: An AWS Region is coming to France

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Post by Twirrim »

Cshelton wrote: post #45
idlewords wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you: 1) Keeping keys to extremely sensitive financial data on a cloud server 2) Confident that the US government won't request this information through warrant or national security letter 3) Asking for advice about this on a message board?

1) They are in a key management service (not AWS). Highly unlikely somebody will get both access to the keys and the data together. They are also rotated periodically. 2) Well lately, I'm not. The Apple/FBI case was somewhat assuring. And I believe that to date, AWS has not handed over any data or keys without permission. 3) More theoretical advice about the new French region. What are the laws about privacy and how…

> 2) Well lately, I'm not. The Apple/FBI case was somewhat assuring. And I believe that to date, AWS has not handed over any data or keys without permission.

How would you know? The NSL would prevent Amazon from being able to say anything about it.

If you're that concerned about your security, you shouldn't be using a cloud provider.

Re: An AWS Region is coming to France

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Post by walshemj »

jeffbarr wrote: post #38
inopinatus wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not every decision is about cost minimisation. There's a resiliency motivation to place DCs in separate flood plains and separate power grids if possible. Whether AWS is following that, I cannot say.

We (I am part of the AWS team) pay a lot of attention to that; our "Overview of Security Practices" paper[1] says: "Each availability zone is designed as an independent failure zone. This means that availability zones are physically separated within a typical metropolitan region and are located in lower risk flood plains (specific flood zone categorization varies by Region). In addition to discrete uninterruptable po…

London does have food risk back in the 80's when I worked for British Telecom we moved our central London DC(next to London bridge station) out to Add to crickelwood for that reason.

Of course later on the IRA bombed the building next door to us - we survived ok the modems just rest them selves

Re: An AWS Region is coming to France

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Post by LyalinDotCom »

Its worth commenting that we here in Microsoft Azure team (our cloud platform) have data centers in 30 regions including UK, Germany, etc. https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/regions/

Our platform is very mature now I wish more folks would give it a shot.

p.s. we also take EU people data privacy very seriously. https://www.thefastmode.com/technology-solutions/9077-micros...

Re: An AWS Region is coming to France

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Post by LoneWolf »

LyalinDotCom wrote: post #54

Its worth commenting that we here in Microsoft Azure team (our cloud platform) have data centers in 30 regions including UK, Germany, etc. https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/regions/ Our platform is very mature now I wish more folks would give it a shot. p.s. we also take EU people data privacy very seriously. https://www.thefastmode.com/technology-solutions/9077-micros...

I don't know how it currently compares with AWS but some time ago the disk IO was a lot slower, and the prices were way higher. Does anyone know of recent comparisons?

Re: An AWS Region is coming to France

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Post by jonknee »

dgemm wrote: post #44
inopinatus wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not every decision is about cost minimisation. There's a resiliency motivation to place DCs in separate flood plains and separate power grids if possible. Whether AWS is following that, I cannot say.

I would assume they wouldn't put any DC on a flood plain.

People like to live near water and where it rains.

Re: An AWS Region is coming to France

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Post by Thaxll »

solatic wrote: post #35

There is STILL no AWS region in Israel. All Internet traffic in and out of Israel goes through three undersea cables connecting the country with Turkey, Greece, and Italy, and as such suffer from the kind of lag that happens when you're separated from your destination server by a couple thousand kilometers, usually more. There are no local cloud providers and the local entrepreneurial culture (which is MASSIVE for su…

Well the population is very small, so you can have the culture but do you need such infrastructure?

Re: An AWS Region is coming to France

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Post by BillinghamJ »

LoneWolf wrote: post #55
LyalinDotCom wrote: post #54

Its worth commenting that we here in Microsoft Azure team (our cloud platform) have data centers in 30 regions including UK, Germany, etc. https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/regions/ Our platform is very mature now I wish more folks would give it a shot. p.s. we also take EU people data privacy very seriously. https://www.thefastmode.com/technology-solutions/9077-micros...

I don't know how it currently compares with AWS but some time ago the disk IO was a lot slower, and the prices were way higher. Does anyone know of recent comparisons?

Prices are still way higher

Re: An AWS Region is coming to France

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Post by discodave »

LyalinDotCom wrote: post #54

Its worth commenting that we here in Microsoft Azure team (our cloud platform) have data centers in 30 regions including UK, Germany, etc. https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/regions/ Our platform is very mature now I wish more folks would give it a shot. p.s. we also take EU people data privacy very seriously. https://www.thefastmode.com/technology-solutions/9077-micros...

MS data centers are akin to AWS availability zones, not AWS regions.

Re: An AWS Region is coming to France

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Post by discodave »

solatic wrote: post #35

There is STILL no AWS region in Israel. All Internet traffic in and out of Israel goes through three undersea cables connecting the country with Turkey, Greece, and Italy, and as such suffer from the kind of lag that happens when you're separated from your destination server by a couple thousand kilometers, usually more. There are no local cloud providers and the local entrepreneurial culture (which is MASSIVE for su…

To figure out where the next AWS regions are going, go down the wikipedia list of countries by GDP and try to think which large markets are not well served yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)

In the Middle East there are several markets larger than Israel, and putting a region in Israel will probably not be tenable for Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the like.

There is no region in Africa...

Russia & Eastern Europe is not that well served...

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