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Well the US kills tens of civilians (like in the recent bombings of the "coalition") with drones or bombers - there's nothing in the headlines with such rhetoric, and it's all justified and civilized. When our "friends" the Saudis and the Qatari kill thousands in Yemen - it's fine. When Turkey violates a sovereign nation and performs a military operation in Syria - it's fine. When Kiev kills thousands of people in Ea…
It is me or title looks very ambiguous? It sounds that missile was launched from Russian grounds. What a scary way to begin a morning.
Highly politicized stories aren't a good fit for HN to begin with, but if anyone can suggest an accurate, neutral title, we can change it.
I wonder why US and Ukraine still not made public a photos taken by space satellites?
Oh, I can think of a couple of reasons: a) Relevant coverage does not exist. (I find it unlikely that full real-time coverage of the globe is available.) b) Coverage exists, but is kept secret so as not to disclose surveillance capabilities.
Doesn't sound like a possible a reason for me. Conflict in the region has existed for some time, so place for photo cameras focusing was well known.
> is kept secret so as not to disclose surveillance capabilities.
It's not a news that we are being watched, so this reason also doesn't sound reasonable for me.
Any other reason? May they have something to hide?
As I understood many of the so called evidences are based on the youtube movies taken by the cell phones by random people. So that should not be a problem to fake such kind of evidences. Also treating google earth photos like an evidence sounds funny for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf6gJ8NDhYA
The video summarizes available evidence answering the question why we sure what happened.
It is me or title looks very ambiguous? It sounds that missile was launched from Russian grounds. What a scary way to begin a morning.
Highly politicized stories aren't a good fit for HN to begin with, but if anyone can suggest an accurate, neutral title, we can change it.
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Oh, I can think of a couple of reasons: a) Relevant coverage does not exist. (I find it unlikely that full real-time coverage of the globe is available.) b) Coverage exists, but is kept secret so as not to disclose surveillance capabilities.
> Relevant coverage does not exist. Doesn't sound like a possible a reason for me. Conflict in the region has existed for some time, so place for photo cameras focusing was well known. > is kept secret so as not to disclose surveillance capabilities. It's not a news that we are being watched, so this reason also doesn't sound reasonable for me. Any other reason? May they have something to hide? As I understood many o…
These, by the very nature of their orbit, cannot remain fixed over one place; they move relative to the ground below and once past it, will not be back until they've completed an orbit.
This, then, means that someone will have to prioritize what areas to investigate and at what times; satellite orbits can be changed, but that is _extremely_ costly, as you need to expend fuel - and there's no simple way to refuel; spend it all, and you need to launch another satellite.
So - maybe the US found that something other than Russian-backed militias destabilizing Ukraine warranted their attention. Say, IS or al-Qaeda - and focussed their attention elsewhere.
b) It is not news that you are being watched.
It may, however, be news when a satellite is watching; perhaps the US piggybacks surveillance gear on commercial satellites, for instance - they couldn't reveal satellite imagery without anybody and his dog being able to figure out which satellite took the photo.
Or - the quality of the photos may be much better than anticipated.
Or, for that matter - maybe the US doesn't want to stick this to Russia as hard as they could; perhaps they do not want to find out what the world community would do once it is proven beyond any doubt that Russia gambled that they could destabilize Ukraine at no cost to themselves, only to find that the rebels and their -ahem- advisors of undisclosed origin promptly escalated the conflict by committing mass murder by incompetence, ignorance or both.
As for your last point, I don't quite catch it. Is the lack of obviously faked 'evidence' evidence that someone is having something to hide?
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Highly politicized stories aren't a good fit for HN to begin with, but if anyone can suggest an accurate, neutral title, we can change it.
This is the original title from the BBC. I am always against using different titles than the original article.
Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait.
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Sanctions are a dirty western political trick just so the politicians here can say "we did something". Sanctions are useless! Do you know who they affect? Regular people ONLY. Who have no say in politics anymore over there (elections are rigged). Facts: 1. Top Russian government officials transferred their assets to Europe / USA over the years. They have their families and kids living abroad and going to European/Ame…
The point is to ruin Russia to the point they become North Korea and cannot afford the upkeep for it's military. Regular people? Boo-fucking-hoo. Maybe if they get off their asses and stop the Putin's insanity...but who are we kidding? People there dream of good old soviet imperium
People there stopped dreaming in the 90's when the ugly side of "new Russia" showed its face. As i said election process is rigged, many folks there want change. please, do not believe 75%+ public support ratings spewed out by state propaganda machines. they are simply untrue.
Lots of folks are ashamed of conflict with Ukraine but unfortunately there is no political and social platform that allows to do anything about this. Anything thats against the state agenda gets nipped in the bud.
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Sanctions are a dirty western political trick just so the politicians here can say "we did something". Sanctions are useless! Do you know who they affect? Regular people ONLY. Who have no say in politics anymore over there (elections are rigged). Facts: 1. Top Russian government officials transferred their assets to Europe / USA over the years. They have their families and kids living abroad and going to European/Ame…
It's not that simple. You want to arrest all assets of powerful Russians offshore? I hope you are ready to face pissed off Shell or Mitsubishi CEOs, after their assets in Russia are arrested too. In addition, you would be playing how Russian government want you: they told their oligarchs last year, that the time to repatriate everything is now (2015). You would be awarding those who listened to that advice and penali…
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> Relevant coverage does not exist. Doesn't sound like a possible a reason for me. Conflict in the region has existed for some time, so place for photo cameras focusing was well known. > is kept secret so as not to disclose surveillance capabilities. It's not a news that we are being watched, so this reason also doesn't sound reasonable for me. Any other reason? May they have something to hide? As I understood many o…
a) You cannot get high-resolution imagery from geostationary satellites. It comes from low earth orbit spacecraft. These, by the very nature of their orbit, cannot remain fixed over one place; they move relative to the ground below and once past it, will not be back until they've completed an orbit. This, then, means that someone will have to prioritize what areas to investigate and at what times; satellite orbits ca…
Not exactly to hide, but bring a mess around the truth. This case has something common with political things and so it's a dirty games area.