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In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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Uber just have to survive until self-driving cars are a reality.

So maybe another decade or two? I'm not sure a 'just' is fair when aiming for something never done before.

I don't believe it will take that long.

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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When I moved to New York a few years ago all it took was a handful of taxi rides to figure out that Uber will eventually put them out of the business. I've had drivers lie about not knowing where to go, intentionally take longer routes, and lie about credit card machines while trying to get rides from New York to Brooklyn, or Brooklyn to Brooklyn. To add insult to injury nearly every single cab is filthy and smells h…

Important point: while costing to the customer the same, if not more. The result? Uber operating at huge losses. The result of that? Well, austerity measures. You can already see the signs of Uber starting to clamp down and make their service worse and worse. Recommended pickup locations -> No longer door to door? Assigning next rides before the previous one has completed -> No longer "feeling like a baller" while yo…

Thank you for driving for us and making Uber a monopoly, we'll be automating our fleet and no longer need your services. We hope you had as much fun as we did and we wish you all the best on your future endeavors. You will be great!

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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I live in Manhattan and use uber ~10 times weekly. I've never observed the behavior you describe with uberX, only uberPOOL. The UI does show you if the driver is finishing a ride near you, but it doesn't tell you to meet him at their dropoff point. It also tries to recommend known "visible" pickup locations along the street where you're calling from, but you can always specify your own location. Do either of these th…

> The UI does show you if the driver is finishing a ride near you Ever consider what that means on the opposite end? Let's say you're an inpatient person (not a rarity in Manhattan). What happens when you call your Uber driver? Shockingly, he must now answer a call with another rider in the car. Effectively: making the ride less safe, making the ride less personal, cutting off any conversation, cutting off last minut…

All fair. Just pointing out that this:

> Recommended pickup locations -> No longer door to door?

is not currently true for uberX. If you're inferring that uber is headed that way, well, maybe. But it's not so presently.

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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post #23

When I moved to New York a few years ago all it took was a handful of taxi rides to figure out that Uber will eventually put them out of the business. I've had drivers lie about not knowing where to go, intentionally take longer routes, and lie about credit card machines while trying to get rides from New York to Brooklyn, or Brooklyn to Brooklyn. To add insult to injury nearly every single cab is filthy and smells h…

I take cabs all the time (in Manhattan). I can't remember the last time I've been in one that's "filthy" or where the driver didn't take cards. All are pretty recent model cars with those screens in the back. Maybe its different in the boroughs?

Agree on the cleanliness - most cabs are fine. However, try getting a yellow cab from Manhattan to Brooklyn after 9PM, especially in a popular/busy area.

Anecdotally I'd estimate there's a 1 in 3 chance of the driver either driving off/refusing the route, having a "broken meter/card machine", but will take (a large amount of) cash or (if you appear to be from out of town) taking a ridiculously long route.

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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post #45

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I'm less concerned about it being UberLateModelPrius (a not-fancy car was always part of the deal with X), but I've noticed last time in SF it was becoming UberFilthyLateModelPriusWithRudeDriver. That I do mind. They're becoming just like the cabs they replaced, just without the brightly colored paint jobs.

What happened to the legendary driver ratings system enforcing politeness?

High turnover would be my guess. The rude driver you see is on his way out, only to be quickly replaced by another one.

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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I wouldn't give it long before there is a ridesharing tax

Agreed I imagine this will happen sooner than later. Taxis in New York City actually have a "rush hour" surcharge of $4.50 from 4:00PM to 8:00PM on weekdays.You will pay this for taking a taxi to the airport which is not served by any single train line. Just another example of the city sticking it to it's own citizen who already pay decent city tax.

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Important point: while costing to the customer the same, if not more. The result? Uber operating at huge losses. The result of that? Well, austerity measures. You can already see the signs of Uber starting to clamp down and make their service worse and worse. Recommended pickup locations -> No longer door to door? Assigning next rides before the previous one has completed -> No longer "feeling like a baller" while yo…

Fair points but let me add a few things to consider as well: "Uber operating at huge losses... service worse and worse." I don't agree here, the service is much better than before. Even with the introduction of uberpool, the service has stayed nearly the same for me in NY, and especially here in SF, while the cost has cut over 50% or more. If you follow Uber closely you can see they're investing into the company to c…

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Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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When I moved to New York a few years ago all it took was a handful of taxi rides to figure out that Uber will eventually put them out of the business. I've had drivers lie about not knowing where to go, intentionally take longer routes, and lie about credit card machines while trying to get rides from New York to Brooklyn, or Brooklyn to Brooklyn. To add insult to injury nearly every single cab is filthy and smells h…

In contrast to that, in Los Angeles, Uber drivers quite often are not familiar with the area they serve, so they are glued to their navigation apps. This can not only create unsafe driving conditions, but sometimes can cause an Uber ride to take twice as long as a taxi ride. If convenience, comfort, and customer service are not a priority, and I just need to get somewhere fast, the taxi is still the way to go.

> but sometimes can cause an Uber ride to take twice as long as a taxi ride

I never imagined navigation apps could suck like that! I have no love for Uber, but I always imagined any navigation app will on average outperform even a knowledgeable driver.

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