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Senate panel authorizes money for Mars mission, shuttle replacement

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Re: Senate panel authorizes money for Mars mission, shuttle replacement

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At least they want to fund the Commercial Crew project. Space-X should have sent a manned Dragon capsule to the ISS by now. There seems to be political pressure to hold them back until ULA can catch up. (Space-X now claims they know why they had a pad explosion. They're saying "breach in the helium system".[1] But what caused that? What part has to be changed? This just came out a few hours ago, so the details are la…

> There seems to be political pressure to hold them back until ULA can catch up.

Source? SpaceX is innovating phenomenally quickly, especially in this industry. Nothing really seems to be holding them back at the moment.

Re: Senate panel authorizes money for Mars mission, shuttle replacement

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The worst part of this news is the continuation of the Space Launch System (SLS), which has cost over seven billion dollars (not including Ares development costs), and is expected to end up costing forty-one billion by 2025, by which time they expect to complete a total of four launches (destination: nowhere important, and probably late). Vulcan (from ULA), New Glenn (from Blue Origin), and Falcon Heavy (from SpaceX)…

The correct acronym for SLS is Senate Launch System.

Oh, are we planning to launch the Senate into LEO? That seems like a winner of an election-year policy proposal.

Re: Senate panel authorizes money for Mars mission, shuttle replacement

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with the International Space Station (ISS) is the ISS. It was an exercise in 80s and 90s design, and you could launch an equally capable science platform at a lower cost than refurbishing the current station. One of the main reasons why NASA is reluctant to replace the existing station is that they are afraid that the program would get cancelled, and they will be left with no station.

Also the I part of ISS kept the world space research orbiting around NASA. For example Brazil make every single research that requires a station (including vehicles, modules and medical science) use the ISS. Without the ISS Brazil could for example attempt its own station, or help China instead. NASA is very powerful, but if everyone help China or Russia instead, it would be bad for USA strategically.

"Control" of space isn't a big deal as long as nations respect the no weapons treaty. Afaik it is possible for ground-based weapons to destroy satellites too. I guess a satellite that could find submarines or hidden nuke sites would be useful in peacetime, if you were planning a first strike.

Re: Senate panel authorizes money for Mars mission, shuttle replacement

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Yes, I think the same about deep sea exploration.

Ya, because who needs to know about exotic microbes living in extreme conditions at the bottom of the ocean. /s

It's almost certainly irrelevant for our survival, but it's also not expensive enough for me to care.

Re: Senate panel authorizes money for Mars mission, shuttle replacement

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Great! > • Expand the full use and life of the space station through 2024 while laying the foundation for use through 2028. So does that mean ISS is not going to be abandoned by 2024?

consider this: one full-size bigelow inflatable module has more volume than the 1/3 of ISS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B330 . three launches to get a bigger ISS. think about it.

But will it last long enough, will it be reliable? If so, great, take it.

Re: Senate panel authorizes money for Mars mission, shuttle replacement

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Perhaps I'm a bit cynical, but space exploration strikes me as a waste of money and energy. The universe is clearly no good for space travel, otherwise we would witness aliens visiting us. It's empty and hostile. This planet is the only realistic long-term home. Sure, space stuff gets kids into science, but I wonder how many more kids we would get into science by investing billions of dollars in education instead. We…

Are you suggesting that we should just stay here, forever?

Our curious nature has always led us to explore the next frontier, historically speaking.

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