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Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by acqq »

cpr wrote: post #47
qyv wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems to have taken place in July 2014, which is many months before the emails went missing (Mar. 2015). Even taking into account that he was apparently instructed to delete the email in Dec. 2014 (and forgot to), it still leaves a large amount of time between these two incidents.

Look at the timing as laid out in http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-19/dear-fbi-does-const... and it's more clear.

Timeline here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-02/fbi-report-shows-ho...

But The Hill has the more important detail:

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/296680-house-pan...

"The Reddit message was sent on July 23, 2014, according to an archive of the page saved by other users. The day before, the Benghazi Committee had reached an agreement with the State Department on the production of related records, according the FBI's investigation into Clinton's use of the server."

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by threepipeproblm »

jordache wrote: post #8
joemi wrote: post #5

Maybe I'm completely ignorant of the situation, but it just sounds like he was trying to keep some email addresses private, in anticipation of some kind of potential release. Is that bad?

Yes it's pretty clear that the content of the email is not to be adjusted, just the To/From fields. This seems to be legitimate work before an anticipate public release of email.

Yeah, while I'm sorry for my other, idiotic comment in sub-thread thread... I don't understand how you could think that's "pretty clear".

Why would he seek help on doing it in a way that is difficult to impossible, compared to redacting/tokenizing after export? That makes zero sense. On the other hand, doing it this way would prevent the normal justice-based extraction procedures from working, because subpoenas are specific to people usually. I can't see any advantage of doing the hard way, other than that... it's hard for me to imagine a lawyer or professional investigator employee making direct use of a PST file or the equivalent.

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by whamlastxmas »

drewrv wrote: post #29
headhunter wrote: post #4

At first I thought this was a total hoax, but the account has been deleted and the incriminating posts are over 2 years old. Here is a pastebin I found of online information linking all his profiles together: http://pastebin.com/NmXcUC1X This is pretty incriminating.

This isn't incriminating at all. There's no mention of changing the content/body, only removing her address from the to/from fields. That's a sensible thing to do if she doesn't want her private email address to be public knowledge, and the presence of her address in the to/from field can be inferred since, you know, it's her inbox. I feel like Hillary could hire someone to take her dog for a walk and millions of peo…

Sure it is. It means Hillary sent emails that appeared to not be from her when they were, meaning they are emails out there relevant to the FBI investigation that were never included. I doubt this fact came out during their investigation. It also means that the data Hillary herself had to turn over was incomplete, since she could have left out lots of emails that "weren't hers" because the sender address was different.

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by whamlastxmas »

sctb wrote: post #36
nimbleDT wrote: post #28

Exactly why I thought HN might find this story interesting, the 'we did it reddit!' factor is funny in light of the many times they've gotten things horribly wrong -- the Boston marathon bombing comes to mind. Kind of wish it hadn't been flagged and disappeared from the front page so quickly.

OK, we'll try overriding some of the user flags and see how the discussion goes. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12534132 and marked it off-topic.

Huge props to you for this. I think this is relevant news for HackerNews, but I suspect people flag it due to other reasons.

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by MicroBerto »

williamle8300 wrote: post #39
adamors wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Obama endorsed HRC.

How does the President get to dictate how the Justice dept rules? The executive and judicial branches are separate

You clearly haven't followed this Administration's activities much. Executive overreach is a daily activity the past 8 (actually 16) years.

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

MicroBerto wrote: post #56
williamle8300 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does the President get to dictate how the Justice dept rules? The executive and judicial branches are separate

You clearly haven't followed this Administration's activities much. Executive overreach is a daily activity the past 8 (actually 16) years.

The last 8 have been worse than the 8 before, though. (And my strong suspicion is that the next 4 or 8 are going to be worse than the last 8, no matter who wins.)

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by cwisecarver »

cwisecarver wrote: post #50

Assuming it's true it isn't incriminating but it does kind of make him look like an idiot. Posting to reddit anything about a VIP seems like a bad idea. Posting it under a username you use all over the internet is even worse. I think it adds to the list of bad decisions HRC and her subordinates have made regarding email in specific and technology in general.

I'm not one to complain about down votes but seriously? What exactly about my comment was wrong, feel free to check the current thread about the House investigating it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12535872

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by joemi »

threepipeproblm wrote: post #49
joemi wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not one of the people to flag or downvote this, but all the post shows is that he wanted to keep some email addresses private. I'm not sure why people think this is a smoking gun? I get that people hate HRC, but how is a desire to tokenize email addresses noteworthy? Edit: Also, the title doesn't fit the post.

Maybe because (a) he didn't use the language of tokenization, he asked how to "strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails", and (b)He just plead the 5th on questions involving whether or not he complied with the investigation legally, which people normally do to avoid incriminating themselves. At least that's how I understand the situation.

> he didn't use the language of tokenization

If by that you mean he didn't say "tokenization" specifically, sure. But "strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails" sounds kind of like tokenization, doesn't it? Sounds to me like how I might ask about it if I don't know the exact words for it.

All I know for certain is that I sure hope nothing important ever rests on the exact phrasing of something I've written on reddit.

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