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Re: Introducing Amazon Wind Farm Texas

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Stop trying to hoard the air! Serious question - as of right now, does Amazon have wind farms to reduce their own costs or do they plan on making a profit by selling the energy to consumers?

I'm going to say never. The energy demands of data centers will be skyrocketing due to increased demand for machine-learning, those GPUs and ultra-multicores will be hungry for decades to come.

Re: Introducing Amazon Wind Farm Texas

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From the press release: Amazon today announced “Amazon Wind Farm Texas,” a new 253-megawatt (MW) wind farm in Scurry County, Texas, that will generate 1,000,000 megawatt hours (MWh) of wind energy annually Seems optimistic. Rule of thumb is that onshore wind generates 30% of its plate rating. That's 660GHw, not 1000, for a 253MW plant. Still a nice, impressive number, just seems over-cooked.

Some areas of TX have a capacity factor of 50% !

Underrated comment. Texas can't build transmission lines fast enough to export their wind power, and some utilities are giving power away for free at night because of it.

Re: Introducing Amazon Wind Farm Texas

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Re: Introducing Amazon Wind Farm Texas

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From the press release: Amazon today announced “Amazon Wind Farm Texas,” a new 253-megawatt (MW) wind farm in Scurry County, Texas, that will generate 1,000,000 megawatt hours (MWh) of wind energy annually Seems optimistic. Rule of thumb is that onshore wind generates 30% of its plate rating. That's 660GHw, not 1000, for a 253MW plant. Still a nice, impressive number, just seems over-cooked.

New (taller) turbines do significantly better than 30% capacity factors. The weighted average for 2014 vintage projects was above 40% with individual projects exceeding 50%.

https://dqbasmyouzti2.cloudfront.net/content/images/articles...

We've made a ton of progress in siting and engineering of wind turbines.

Re: Introducing Amazon Wind Farm Texas

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this is out in west Texas where wind is plentiful along with cheap land. Nearly all wind and solar farms inject energy into the grid just like any other generator. In an open energy market like ERCOT (where this wind farm is located) there's a market where energy is traded. If they inject "X" units of energy into the grid and pull out the same "X" units all is good. If not (the usual case since generation and dem…

I would like to take a moment to appreciate that we seemingly have a pretty open, fair, and working regulatory system to make this possible. I am sure it's not perfect, but that you can do this at all is pretty cool.

One could argue that the possibility of having such structures in place is exactly what allows such a market to exist. In fact, the fair enforcement of laws and the viability of the laws themselves is perhaps one of the strongest foundations of progress in the developed nations.

Re: Introducing Amazon Wind Farm Texas

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I wonder why they went for Wind farms over anything on the sea or solar powered

There's probably also a bit of "Apple and Google have solar and fuel cell covered, where can we make an impact?" involved. Not a bad thing. We need to be investing and experimenting with lots of different alternative energy strategies.

I would like to see someone do a large scale implementation of marine current power (underwater turbines spun by currents like the Gulf Stream).

Re: Introducing Amazon Wind Farm Texas

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I wonder why they went for Wind farms over anything on the sea or solar powered

There's probably also a bit of "Apple and Google have solar and fuel cell covered, where can we make an impact?" involved. Not a bad thing. We need to be investing and experimenting with lots of different alternative energy strategies.

I would like to see someone do a large scale implementation of marine current power (underwater turbines spun by currents like the Gulf Stream).

Re: Introducing Amazon Wind Farm Texas

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In 20 years I'm looking forward to buying Amazon Citizenship.

Amazon Citizenship: 1) They setup an offshore corporation for you in a low tax jurisdiction and give you payment processors to take checks and credit cards over the internet. Every few years, they move all of these corps en masse to lower tax jurisdictions, if any. More efficient competition among tax regimes. Amazon will file all pertinent taxes and paperwork and connects to your quickbooks to make that even easier.…

Bring on the Snow Crash-esque future.
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