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Why Do Famous People Get Paid $250k to Give a Speech?

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Re: Why Do Famous People Get Paid $250k to Give a Speech?

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Post by coldtea »

TrickedOut wrote: post #41
jomamaxx wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" Who cares what she's currently working on if that's not why she was invited?" Because if you receive piles of money while running for president, and then pass on favours after getting it, we call that 'bribery'. I don't want to sound mean spirited, but your position is incredibly naive. That she is running for president is extremely relevant. Same for all politicos.

> Same for all politicos. OK, so why are such articles only written for hillary? Why are you so adamantly opposed to Hillary's practices when it is so incredibly common. How much of all this is about corruption and how much is it about bullying females?

>OK, so why are such articles only written for hillary?

As opposed to who? Trump? Aren't enough negative articles also written for Trump? Besides he is so rich that he doesn't needed "meagre" 250K speeches to influence him -- he probably has voting favors for his business partners and his own business interests pre-planned already.

>Why are you so adamantly opposed to Hillary's practices when it is so incredibly common.

Because even if another 100,000 politicians do it, she's the one who'll be probably sitting in the White House...

You'd rather people prioritize criticizing some second rate senator from Alabama or South Dakota, or the potential next President?

>How much of all this is about corruption and how much is it about bullying females?

The latter none at all? Else we'd see it for other female politicians too.

Re: Why Do Famous People Get Paid $250k to Give a Speech?

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Post by zacharycohn »

throwaway287391 wrote: post #9

Do they give a discount for speaking gigs in/around their hometown? It seems like 90+% of the "work" (and certainly the time) involved in most of the out-of-town speaking gigs would be traveling to and from them, rather than the actual speaking.

Don't sell yourself by the hour. Sell by value.

Re: Why Do Famous People Get Paid $250k to Give a Speech?

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Post by sandworm101 »

netcan wrote: post #36

" that’s like asking why anyone would pay Beyoncé or the Beatles a million dollars just to play a few songs " This almost feels like playing dumb. The fact that a legitimate public speaking economy exists and has a dynamic which is not based on payola does not mean that a dirtier side does not. Like other pieces of the money-in-politics puzzle there are legitimate, non-corrupt reasons to hand powerful people 6 figure…

Beyoncé isn't just Beyoncé. Even when doing a private gig for a billionaire "she" is a huge event employing hundreds of people to install and operate a massive collection of sound, light and staging equipment. She, the person, may take a large fee but "she" the show is something very different than a politician giving a speech at a podium.

Hiring a politician to give a speech at your corporate retreat is like hiring Beyoncé to attend your birthday party and not sing. It may be physically possible, but horribly awkward and everyone outside the party will wonder what was actually going on.

Re: Why Do Famous People Get Paid $250k to Give a Speech?

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

coldtea wrote: post #51
TrickedOut wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Same for all politicos. OK, so why are such articles only written for hillary? Why are you so adamantly opposed to Hillary's practices when it is so incredibly common. How much of all this is about corruption and how much is it about bullying females?

> OK, so why are such articles only written for hillary? As opposed to who? Trump? Aren't enough negative articles also written for Trump? Besides he is so rich that he doesn't needed "meagre" 250K speeches to influence him -- he probably has voting favors for his business partners and his own business interests pre-planned already. > Why are you so adamantly opposed to Hillary's practices when it is so incredibly co…

Wow that is world-class naiveté. Female politicians of every stripe are bullied daily. This is business as usual for half of our population. And its compounded by guys constantly replying "Hey it isn't happening to me; I don't see it so it must not exist".

Re: Why Do Famous People Get Paid $250k to Give a Speech?

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Post by tiler »

netcan wrote: post #36

" that’s like asking why anyone would pay Beyoncé or the Beatles a million dollars just to play a few songs " This almost feels like playing dumb. The fact that a legitimate public speaking economy exists and has a dynamic which is not based on payola does not mean that a dirtier side does not. Like other pieces of the money-in-politics puzzle there are legitimate, non-corrupt reasons to hand powerful people 6 figure…

Ehh. Hilary Clinton is far more powerful than the people that invite her to give speeches. More than likely this is a way for a business interest to pay tribute in the hopes that someday she might remember their fealty.

Re: Why Do Famous People Get Paid $250k to Give a Speech?

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Post by douche »

tacomonstrous wrote: post #50
jomamaxx wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Hillary Clinton: A) Is running for President B) Is married to an ex-President, and the most influential man in the world. C) Has a $500M slush-fund into which money from nefarious places is being invested - and it's not controlled by campaign spending laws. D) Money was given to her from individuals (more than 50% of them) that she was dealing with as Sec of State - which is a massive conflict of interest on…

What is this slush fund? Who gave her money when she was Sec of State? Please substantiate these assertions.

The Clinton Foundation is a slush fund. I spent a higher percentage of my income on actual charity than they have in recent years.

Re: Why Do Famous People Get Paid $250k to Give a Speech?

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Post by qznc »

ramblenode wrote: post #40

> In the case of politicians like Hillary Clinton, many observers see a more sinister explanation for how a speech can be worth $225,000: the speech is buying political influence. > It’s impossible to say exactly how much the desire to influence politicians inflates their speaking fees. Goldman is, as with all their investments, expecting a positive return. I'm not sure why this is presented as some kind of alternati…

Goldman does not need to actually influence Hillary. They only need to suggest the possibility, so their clients believe that Goldman has an advantage compared the competition.

Re: Why Do Famous People Get Paid $250k to Give a Speech?

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Post by mdemare »

ramblenode wrote: post #40

> In the case of politicians like Hillary Clinton, many observers see a more sinister explanation for how a speech can be worth $225,000: the speech is buying political influence. > It’s impossible to say exactly how much the desire to influence politicians inflates their speaking fees. Goldman is, as with all their investments, expecting a positive return. I'm not sure why this is presented as some kind of alternati…

They already received their positive return. By paying Hillary for her speeches, they blocked her from credibly moving to the left on financial reform to fend off Sanders.

Re: Why Do Famous People Get Paid $250k to Give a Speech?

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Post by leereeves »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #55
coldtea wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> OK, so why are such articles only written for hillary? As opposed to who? Trump? Aren't enough negative articles also written for Trump? Besides he is so rich that he doesn't needed "meagre" 250K speeches to influence him -- he probably has voting favors for his business partners and his own business interests pre-planned already. > Why are you so adamantly opposed to Hillary's practices when it is so incredibly co…

Wow that is world-class naiveté. Female politicians of every stripe are bullied daily. This is business as usual for half of our population. And its compounded by guys constantly replying "Hey it isn't happening to me; I don't see it so it must not exist".

Clinton is being treated far more kindly than Trump.
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