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Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

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I see a lot of people here and on GitHub project page complaining about compatibility with older versions of bootstrap. I don't get it - if your project is already working on older version of bootstrap - why even bother updating it, I mean it's only CSS code, it's not like it will bring you any speed improvements or something...I think it's neither bad or good thing that new version of bootstrap less and less compati…

> I mean it's only CSS code, it's not like it will bring you any speed improvements or something Most people who use bootstrap3 use the JavaScript also. I suspect the worry is in 2 years (or however long they are bug fixing bootstrap3), newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3, and you will have a complex way forward. What bootstrap4 is doing is good, but it also can cause pain for users of bootstrap3.

The only thing that could break Bootstrap 3 is browsers deprecating ASI and it's not on the roadmap of any major browser vendors.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

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post #43
post #33

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Presumably because at some point Bootstrap 3 will stop getting bug fixes. Historically, what has been their end-of-life policy?

So based on their github and some searching with google, historically they didn't have much of an end-of-life policy, because there were no bugfix releases for v1.x.x after v2 came out, and no bugfix releases for v2.x.x after v3 came out: v3.0.0 - 2013-08-19 v3.0.0 RC1 - 2013-07-27 v2.3.2 - 2013-07-27 v2.3.1 - 2013-03-01 v2.0.0 - 2012-01-31 v1.4.0 - 2011-11-03 v1.3.0 - 2011-09-16 With major version 4 still being in a…

They mention in the original alpha release article this was a mistake. They plan on supporting and bug fixing for the foreseeable future with bootstrap3

http://blog.getbootstrap.com/2015/08/19/bootstrap-4-alpha/

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#54
post #4

What's new? I haven't been following bootstrap 4, ( especially since I switched to http://semantic-ui.com/ ). * I see a list of themes priced at 100$ :/ (maybe that's a good thing?) * "Moved from Less to Sass". OK, that's a late addition but always welcomed. (Although there was already an unofficial sass version of bootstrap.) * "Opt-in flexbox support is here". Why would flexbox not be opt-out? * "giving you more op…

These themes are built with Bootstrap 3

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

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> I mean it's only CSS code, it's not like it will bring you any speed improvements or something Most people who use bootstrap3 use the JavaScript also. I suspect the worry is in 2 years (or however long they are bug fixing bootstrap3), newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3, and you will have a complex way forward. What bootstrap4 is doing is good, but it also can cause pain for users of bootstrap3.

> newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3 Is that a common thing for browsers to break on older, previously compatible CSS?

As has been repeated many times here. Bootstrap has javascript as well as CSS.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

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post #4

What's new? I haven't been following bootstrap 4, ( especially since I switched to http://semantic-ui.com/ ). * I see a list of themes priced at 100$ :/ (maybe that's a good thing?) * "Moved from Less to Sass". OK, that's a late addition but always welcomed. (Although there was already an unofficial sass version of bootstrap.) * "Opt-in flexbox support is here". Why would flexbox not be opt-out? * "giving you more op…

How is that a good thing (sass)? That means that instead of having a full JS build now they need Ruby too...

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

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> newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3 Is that a common thing for browsers to break on older, previously compatible CSS?

Are there any cases of browsers breaking on older web standards? The only things I can think of that ever broke are plugins (Java, Flash) and vendor-specific extensions (e.g. lots of IE quirks).

element that was deprecated by browsers maybe. But that was non standard to begin with.

Probably only things experimental, non spec are in danger, but it's safe to think css is very future proof compared other languages designed for layouts.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

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> newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3 Is that a common thing for browsers to break on older, previously compatible CSS?

Are there any cases of browsers breaking on older web standards? The only things I can think of that ever broke are plugins (Java, Flash) and vendor-specific extensions (e.g. lots of IE quirks).

I think chrome and safari made a bit of a mess with the rounded corners before it was standardized. One of them dropped the browser prefix and ended changing their implementation I think. My memory is very hazy though.
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