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Privacy and control need to be put back into the hands of the individual

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Re: Privacy and control need to be put back into the hands of the individual

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post #46

Article is actually a lengthy pitch for YAC$ (yet another cryptocurrency) It's another anonymized coin that appears to have fancy chat/marketplace support in the main wallet application as a flagship feature.

I don't understand how blockchain applications can ever be considered "anonymous", when there's a public ledger and everyone knowing your wallet address can track all your transactions.

I guess you could own several wallets for different purposes?

Re: Privacy and control need to be put back into the hands of the individual

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Domain: decentralize.today. Published on: Medium. Seriously, it isn't THAT hard to at least host your blog outside the centralized disservices. You could argue that reach is negatively affected. It probably is. But if everybody (and that includes the outlets promoting decentralization) just swallows the bait, how can things ever change? (Wo)man up!

Maybe the author should give a look at https://selfhosted.libhunt.com/ - there are a lot of decentralised blog engines around.

Re: Privacy and control need to be put back into the hands of the individual

#53
post #49

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The French constitution references the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen which covers "all men, French, foreign, prisoners and enemies".

So do the protections afforded by the French constitution apply to "all men, French, foreign, prisoners and enemies"?

Yes, it does. There was a ruling long ago (early 1970's) which led to the formal inclusion of the Universal rights of man in the French constitution. It was only referenced (think of that as a hyperlink) and this reference was expanded to include the text in full.

We covered some of this in our class on 'staatsinrichting' where not only the Dutch but also other important European countries organizations were discussed. This one stands out for me because it seems that at least one European country got this one exactly right.

Re: Privacy and control need to be put back into the hands of the individual

#54
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The French constitution references the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen which covers "all men, French, foreign, prisoners and enemies".

So do the protections afforded by the French constitution apply to "all men, French, foreign, prisoners and enemies"?

I'm not a constitutional lawyer but a subset of the protections seem to apply. The French constitution does an "include" of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen. A constitutional court decision of 1971 has confirmed its applicability.

Re: Privacy and control need to be put back into the hands of the individual

#55
post #28

Printed money is decentralized and anonymous in the cash form.

Anonymous yes, decentralized no. The bill in your hand is printed by a central authority, is given value (or taken away, at their whim) by that same central authority, is protected by law, and is technically not even your property. It's the opposite of decentralized.

Re: Privacy and control need to be put back into the hands of the individual

#56
post #46

Article is actually a lengthy pitch for YAC$ (yet another cryptocurrency) It's another anonymized coin that appears to have fancy chat/marketplace support in the main wallet application as a flagship feature.

I don't understand how blockchain applications can ever be considered "anonymous", when there's a public ledger and everyone knowing your wallet address can track all your transactions.

There was a paper a few years ago (when the need for proper anonymous bitcoin spending came up), something about zero-knowledge proofs, and you can switch your known bitcoin (public key, basically) to this anoncoin and you can then switch that back to a bitcoin, but all outside observers will just see that your known address "bought" an anoncoin. Of course, if someone observes the whole anoncoin switcher network, all they would see is that anoncoin users together bought some bitcoins.

But here is the relevant wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerocoin

Re: Privacy and control need to be put back into the hands of the individual

#57
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So do the protections afforded by the French constitution apply to "all men, French, foreign, prisoners and enemies"?

Yes, it does. There was a ruling long ago (early 1970's) which led to the formal inclusion of the Universal rights of man in the French constitution. It was only referenced (think of that as a hyperlink) and this reference was expanded to include the text in full. We covered some of this in our class on 'staatsinrichting' where not only the Dutch but also other important European countries organizations were discusse…

It's interesting to note that since the revolution the French legislators have had an universalist view of things. The goal was to spread the enlightenment ideas to the world (who said the French weren't pretentious).

Of course in practice things haven't always followed the theory. For example in French colonies, although indigenous people were supposed to enjoy the same protections than the French colonists, it didn't happen that way. The excuse was that they needed to be put "up to speed" first.

Re: Privacy and control need to be put back into the hands of the individual

#58
post #32
post #18

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It's more that I don't want sensible concerns about privacy in online services diluted by monetary theory that's at best "fringe".

The article identifies the risk that printed money will disappear, replaced with a few large credit card companies and banks so the government can monitor everyone's use of money. Since we're clearly already heading in that direction bit by bit, I wouldn't call it a fringe theory.

It is only fringe / extremist / conspiracy theorist when its a problem I don't personally have (or have not exerted the mental energy to fully understand). If it is affecting my life, it is serious mainstream business we need to take seriously.

That is a fundamental problem with online discourse. People put on blinders on singular crusades when reality is the combined effects of many, many forces influencing one another. Topically, the anti-encryption movement by governments is tied to broader totalitarian leanings by many traditionally republican states in the west, which has hundreds of influential aspects in all kinds of fields of business and society. And those leanings have correlations in everything from fearmongering to economic uncertainty to long running campaigns by certain interests that have lasted decades.

And then we get trapped in this rat hole of arguing over what is "serious" or meaningful, when in hindsight we can historically recognize almost all of history is the combined effect of many influencing factors not apparent at that moment in the past.

Re: Privacy and control need to be put back into the hands of the individual

#59
post #26
post #23

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Remember: if you're a non-US citizen outside the US, then the US Constitution protection against search (4th Amendment) doesn't apply to you! We have no 4th Amendment protections!

I'm as opposed to mass surveillance as anyone on HN, but I've been surprised by this kind of reaction. Why are non-citizens surprised at this lack of constitutional protection? Are there actually any countries whose constitutional protections apply to non-citizens and/or non-residents? I think that would be pretty cool and progressive if it were the case, but I'm not aware of any.

ECHR applies to European governments as regards anyone who is a human, including nonresident nonnationals. This was used to make claims for rights violations against Iraqi nationals during the occupation by coalition forces.

Why does it apply this way? Think of the history of the Third Reich violating the rights of noncitizen nonnationals.

Re: Privacy and control need to be put back into the hands of the individual

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post #26
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember: if you're a non-US citizen outside the US, then the US Constitution protection against search (4th Amendment) doesn't apply to you! We have no 4th Amendment protections!

I'm as opposed to mass surveillance as anyone on HN, but I've been surprised by this kind of reaction. Why are non-citizens surprised at this lack of constitutional protection? Are there actually any countries whose constitutional protections apply to non-citizens and/or non-residents? I think that would be pretty cool and progressive if it were the case, but I'm not aware of any.

In the UK the Human Rights Act applies to all Humans (the current government is trying to change this but it still applies) The notion of human rights applying to only citizens is very strange to me.
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