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My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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I'm not quite sure why all these iPad articles are framed with the assumption you're going to use the iPad instead of something else. I've been working on a project in Logic most of the night on my Mac with the iPad sitting on my desk for browsing, music, and video. It's a fantastic setup. Nice break from keyboard & mousing. The display is stunning and multi-touch web browsing on this size screen is such a natural ex…

They're framed with that assumption because of the other articles that call it "the future of computing". If something's the future of computing, it's supposed to supplant the present of computing, right?

Why can't the future be something that augments instead of supplants?

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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He mentions that as the only thing his mother would like about the device. The paragraph above the one you quote says this: I also work with people who are not very deeply skilled in computer technology, exactly the kind of people this product is supposedly for. It won't work for them, because they need to multi-task too. We learned a long time ago that inexpert users don't use less resources, they just use them diff…

You make a good point, which proves that neither of us actually knows which phrasing Dave Winer meant. Don't be a jerk. We live in the same city and might actually meet at some point. I don't like being on bad terms with people I've never met.

I'm sorry if I came off as attacking you: there wasn't any intent to do that. I just was trying to point out where I think you misread Winer's article, which is in the grand scheme of things a pretty minor mistake, probably not even worth the downvotes. I certainly wasn't trying to make it personal.

I think one issue may have been that what I wrote in my post was just the first two sentences; the whole second paragraph is cut-and-pasted from Winer. In that paragraph Winer himself comes off as pretty aggressive, and by quoting all of that it may have made my comment read as more caustic than it was designed to be. (though I guess we should heed techiferous' point about tone on the internet and give Winer a little benefit of the doubt here too!)

This community (and discussion forums in general) is only useful if we sometimes can correct each other's mistakes and use evidence to argue against each others' positions. However, we should always do so in ways that never make it feel like anyone is being attacked, and it's my bad if I fell short of that.

I sent Aaron a direct message on Facebook already saying all this, but I wanted to clarify for everyone else here, especially anyone who flagged my comment: I was somehow locked out of HN starting sometime shortly after I made my original reply to Aaron and ending just a minute ago. My best guess is that this must have been caused by some mechanism triggered when several people flag your post but a mod hasn't decided whether to ban you yet. Just speculation, though: it's also possible my co-founder logged into my account and turned on noprocrast as a subtle message to get off HN and get back to work! :) That's actually pretty good advice that I'll be following now. Have a good few weeks, HN.

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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I'm not quite sure why all these iPad articles are framed with the assumption you're going to use the iPad instead of something else. I've been working on a project in Logic most of the night on my Mac with the iPad sitting on my desk for browsing, music, and video. It's a fantastic setup. Nice break from keyboard & mousing. The display is stunning and multi-touch web browsing on this size screen is such a natural ex…

I remember in one post PG mentioned that his solution to procrastinating on the internet was to get a separate computer to do all of his non-work-related internet browsing on. If I'm remembering correctly, that's the only thing he would use this computer for. It was at a different desk and so whenever he would use it too much he would feel something wrong.

I think I will try implementing something similar with my iPad, and see how it works.

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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I really enjoy the 'just works' aspect of MobileMe, only problem is the cost of course. In the same vein though Apple TV isn't a game changer, but it could become more relevant as time goes by.

"I really enjoy the 'just works' aspect of MobileMe." I was an early adopter and got burned. It never worked for me. After fighting for hours with configuration and bad Apple support (which is uncharacteristic), I realized that the time it would potentially save me was being burned up in setting it up, so I abandoned it. In the end I ended up losing $99 and gaining nothing. I'm guessing from what you said that they'v…

Yea the launch was a disaster. They were definitely stretched too thin at the time. I've heard some people have had issues still but it has been perfect for me since I got it around the launch of the 3GS.

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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people keep saying this, and i keep thinking it'll be shot from a truly horrible angle and will be really unflattering.

And a wobbly image. I'd like to see some good image stabilization using face-tracking.

Apple’s photo software already has face recognition and its video software already has good image stabilization. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were spin-offs of work towards precisely this.

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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They're framed with that assumption because of the other articles that call it "the future of computing". If something's the future of computing, it's supposed to supplant the present of computing, right?

Why can't the future be something that augments instead of supplants?

By definition?

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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post #52

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You make a good point, which proves that neither of us actually knows which phrasing Dave Winer meant. Don't be a jerk. We live in the same city and might actually meet at some point. I don't like being on bad terms with people I've never met.

I'm sorry if I came off as attacking you: there wasn't any intent to do that. I just was trying to point out where I think you misread Winer's article, which is in the grand scheme of things a pretty minor mistake, probably not even worth the downvotes. I certainly wasn't trying to make it personal. I think one issue may have been that what I wrote in my post was just the first two sentences; the whole second paragra…

Thank you for putting the conversation back in the civil tone!

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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I'm not quite sure why all these iPad articles are framed with the assumption you're going to use the iPad instead of something else. I've been working on a project in Logic most of the night on my Mac with the iPad sitting on my desk for browsing, music, and video. It's a fantastic setup. Nice break from keyboard & mousing. The display is stunning and multi-touch web browsing on this size screen is such a natural ex…

They're framed with that assumption because of the other articles that call it "the future of computing". If something's the future of computing, it's supposed to supplant the present of computing, right?

It certainly simplifies things to say x will replace y. I suspect that with the ipad, its more of the beginnings of a new facet of computing.

For me, as a developer, the ipad certainly won't be much more than a diversion or a target for development. For people like my wife, though, I think it will definitely have an impact. Many people simply want a content consumption device (web, media, etc), and I think the ipad is a very good device for consuming most content.

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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"The usual fanboy rebuttal is that [the iPad] is not designed for what I do." How does stating _a fact_ like this make one a fanboy? This re-reminds me why Dave Winer irritates me. Yes, the iPad does not offer a development environment. Yes, the iPad lacks file-system access. So what? Dave also invokes the classic 'my mom's going to love this' line. I think my mother will too. And I cannot wait to replace her Windows…

Yes. iPad is for consumption not for production. Don't know when some of these guys will realize it and stop making a big fuzz. I don't see the point of it.

What a computer is used for should not be up to the manufacturer of the device.
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