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Re: Instapaper is joining Pinterest

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post #41

Worth re-reading Marco Arment's blog post about selling Instapaper 3 years ago: https://marco.org/2013/04/25/instapaper-next-generation "Instapaper needs a new home where it can be staffed and grown, but I didn’t want to give it to a big company that would probably just shut it down in six months." Oof.

In all fairness, it's been many times longer than six months.

Re: Instapaper is joining Pinterest

#52

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Wallabag ( https://www.wallabag.org/ ) if you want self-hosted. Pinboard ( https://pinboard.in ) offers archiving for (I believe) $25 a year. Or Pocket ( https://getpocket.com/ ) which used to be Read-It-Later.

Thanks for the link to Wallabag, I had never heard of it. Looks very interesting. I use Pinboard, and pay for the archiving option. I even periodically request a tarball of the archive for my own backup. Pinboard archives the entire page, not just a readable version of the content. For archival and reference purposes, I like this. It would be nice if Pinboard also provided a readable option. In fact, a number of the…

Paperback offers a reasonably good reading experience for Pinboard links.

https://readpaperback.com

Re: Instapaper is joining Pinterest

#53
post #15

Bummer. I love and use instapaper, gathering articles for a few weeks to read at altitude. It's a great product, and I paid for a subscription these last years in the hopes that I could therefore continue to enjoy it. Now it's sold to Pinterest, one of the two sites I don't bother with links to—because I know Pinterest and Quora will require me to sign in rather than show me what they showed a search engine. What els…

Wallabag ( https://www.wallabag.org/ ) if you want self-hosted. Pinboard ( https://pinboard.in ) offers archiving for (I believe) $25 a year. Or Pocket ( https://getpocket.com/ ) which used to be Read-It-Later.

It's funny how even after all those years, people still feel the need to mention "formerly Read It Later" when they talk about Pocket.

Re: Instapaper is joining Pinterest

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Thanks for the link to Wallabag, I had never heard of it. Looks very interesting. I use Pinboard, and pay for the archiving option. I even periodically request a tarball of the archive for my own backup. Pinboard archives the entire page, not just a readable version of the content. For archival and reference purposes, I like this. It would be nice if Pinboard also provided a readable option. In fact, a number of the…

I'm cool with the idea of providing a readable option in Pinboard, since I already do something similar to get the text out of the page for indexing. Any library for this you particularly like?

Readability (https://github.com/luin/readability) is a classic, and included as part of Firefox (I think, maybe that's been discontinued). It's essentially a bag of hand-written heuristics but they're pretty good heuristics.

Some interesting reading is Christian Kohlschütter's thesis on this problem, which is framed in academia as "how do we assemble good text corpuses from webpages for data analysis, which means removing junk (boilerplate) from our HTML crawls" (https://code.google.com/archive/p/boilerpipe/wikis/WSDM2010P...). Boilerpipe would probably be the right way to go, but if you're not using Java it could be harder to integrate.

Re: Instapaper is joining Pinterest

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the link to Wallabag, I had never heard of it. Looks very interesting. I use Pinboard, and pay for the archiving option. I even periodically request a tarball of the archive for my own backup. Pinboard archives the entire page, not just a readable version of the content. For archival and reference purposes, I like this. It would be nice if Pinboard also provided a readable option. In fact, a number of the…

I'm cool with the idea of providing a readable option in Pinboard, since I already do something similar to get the text out of the page for indexing. Any library for this you particularly like?

I would very much like to see this.

I don't know what is the state of the art for a general content extractor. (I have done a fair amount of one off web scrapers, for data collection, but nothing this generic)

Re: Instapaper is joining Pinterest

#59
post #41

Worth re-reading Marco Arment's blog post about selling Instapaper 3 years ago: https://marco.org/2013/04/25/instapaper-next-generation "Instapaper needs a new home where it can be staffed and grown, but I didn’t want to give it to a big company that would probably just shut it down in six months." Oof.

In all fairness, it's been many times longer than six months.

It wasn't shut down, it was sold to a big company. The six month clock starts now!

Re: Instapaper is joining Pinterest

#60
post #48

Good opportunity to build an OSS alternative? Or even a side-project... in the possible event Instapaper gets sidelined. That always seems to happen. With the exception of maybe Reddit.

Can you summarize what their features are?

From a quick web search, it seems to be:

- Parsing a page for main body content, removing cruft, and reflowing it into an aesthetically pleasing layout

- Cloud bookmarking these artifacts

So how does this not run up against anti-scraping TOS provisions? Does money change hands between the publisher and the content-reflower?

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