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Re: The rectangularness of countries

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I have a theory that newer borders more rectangular, whereas older borders follow natural wiggly features like rivers, similar to newer cities' roads being more rectangular, whereas older roads are more higgly-piggly organic.

The older ones grew; the newer were planned.

You can see it east-to-west in the USA states' borders.

Re: The rectangularness of countries

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Netherlands have two islands in the Caribbean that is technically no different than any other "county" of the Netherlands.

which are these? as far as I understood (I lived in Sint Maarten for a couple of years once) the Netherlands Antilles are colonies only, unlike the French islands (Martinique and Guadeloupe mainly, but St Barts and St Martin too) which are overseas departments of France, and also considered part of EU.

I was a little of, there's three: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Netherlands (Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, and Saba)

Re: The rectangularness of countries

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post #18

I was kind of disappointed that this post isn't about artificial borders that look like straight latitudinal or longitudinal lines. Those kinds of borders are quite common and I've always thought they say a lot about a country and its past.

What do they say?

Long, straight lines for borders usually imply that the territory through which they are drawn was neither well explored nor terribly important to the people drawing them. Sometimes that's because the territory is mostly uninhabited and nobody really has a strong claim to want their particular patch of land to be on one side or the other, but frequently its because the mapmakers either don't know or don't care about the cultural affinities and loyalties of the people who live on or near the proposed border.

This is one of the main reasons why a lot of central Africa is a shit show politically. Most of the modern borders were drawn during the colonial era without much consideration as to which tribes and city-states ended up in which countries, so there's not a strong relationship between "nations" (i.e. culturally similar groups of people) and "countries" (i.e. demarcated stretches of land) like there is in most of the rest of the world.

Re: The rectangularness of countries

#54

I'm surprised Portugal didn't score higher. One day in the car I randomly asked myself the same question of "which country is the most rectangular", and Portugal was the first one I thought of. Is it because the Azores were included? Would like to see the rank if they had only the mainland.

My exact thought. But I'm Portuguese, so I'm biased.

Re: The rectangularness of countries

#55

this metric is kind of poor. What about something like the area ratio of the biggest inscribed rectangle to the smallest circumscribed rectangle that has edges parallel to the selected inscribed rectangle.

I like this metric better, although I'm wondering if the rectangles should be similar, not just having parallel edges. That should put Turkey and Portugal up at the top, if you remove the islands.

Re: The rectangularness of countries

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post #18

I was kind of disappointed that this post isn't about artificial borders that look like straight latitudinal or longitudinal lines. Those kinds of borders are quite common and I've always thought they say a lot about a country and its past.

What do they say?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston%27s_Hiccup

Re: The rectangularness of countries

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I'm surprised Portugal didn't score higher. One day in the car I randomly asked myself the same question of "which country is the most rectangular", and Portugal was the first one I thought of. Is it because the Azores were included? Would like to see the rank if they had only the mainland.

Polandball comics have been on the Portugal-is-a-rectangle trail for a while now:

https://www.reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/300b86/portugal...

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