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Re: Two Factor Auth List of Websites

#51

I would argue that Namecheap shouldn't be on that list. They send out a 6 digit code and then immediately tell you what number it begins with, reducing the code to effectively 5 digits. Their continued refusal to support RFC 6238 shows they don't take this seriously in my opinion.

Please consider sending them a pull request: https://github.com/2factorauth/twofactorauth/pulls

Re: Two Factor Auth List of Websites

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post #14

TradeKing definitely needs to be added to this list. They should be prominently featured at the top in a security hall of shame for their cartoonish security. Edit, examples: No 2 factor authentication Displaying the answers to your security questions in multiple choice form (with a none of the above option, but usually including your answer). Requiring your password to be entered with mouse clicks at an on-screen ke…

Please consider sending them a pull request: https://github.com/2factorauth/twofactorauth/pulls

Re: Two Factor Auth List of Websites

#53

2FA is trivial to add. https://www.authy.com/ Just do it.

Thanks for the reference. For end-users, they claim that their app will work on multiple devices whereas Google Authenticator only works on one. That would be a big advantage - I'm worried about losing my phone even with backup codes in my wallet. Worst case situation is that I'm robbed and have to hand over phone and wallet! Also, I'm not aware of Google Authenticator being updated. Which makes me concerned that it'…

TOTP as an open spec is implemented in Google Authenticator's open source version on GitHub. (It's old, but works great.) I recommend not using proprietary apps or services for security purposes.

Things with backup or sync are risky, they add additional ways your authenticator can be compromised. There's an alternative that's similarly useful, but far more secure. When you add a 2FA code, print the QR code presented by the website and store it somewhere very secure in real world space. You can later scan it with any TOTP app, and it'll add the identical authenticator to another device.

Re: Two Factor Auth List of Websites

#54

It's great that this exists. Many typical users are still befuddled by multifactor authentication, and the one thing that helps is practice. Unfortunately, by having all these islands of identity, the frequency of interaction for many of them ends up being low, resulting in users forgetting they enabled MFA and the associated recovery costs. There have been technologies to try to bridge the identity islands -- social…

Great points. I love TFA (e.g. Google Authenticator) but I recognize that ~95% of Internet users will never care as long as it is as hard to use as it currently is.

Re: Two Factor Auth List of Websites

#55
I see that Charles Schwab is listed as having 2-factor authentication via hardware token, and Citibank is listed as not having it. Both of these are only partially correct. For example, Charles Schwab allows it on their brokerage accounts, but if your company sets up your 401k with them, then it's not supported.

Citibank does support it, but only on their "Gold" accounts.

Re: Two Factor Auth List of Websites

#56
post #47

The TOTP stuff will never be widly used. Its just a total pain to work with. SMS is also very suboptimal. I have more hope for U2F as second factors go. That is at least easy to work with once you have bought the token. I find it a joy to use.

> The TOTP stuff will never be widly used. Its just a total pain to work with. I'm not sure I agree with that. Generating a code: makeQRCode(); Validating a code: validateCode($_POST['2facode'])) { // Login successful } } Then you can just use the 2FA app of your choice (Authy, Google Authenticator, etc.), scan the QR code, and you're good to go.

I have implemented this before. I have it in production right now.

The fact is people hate typing stuff from their phone into their computer. Specially if you phone is not always within reaching distance. If you have to do it with tons of different logins you will be annoyed. As long as you have 1-2 accounts its fine, but if we really want to role it out everywhere, we need something better.

Re: Two Factor Auth List of Websites

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post #52
post #14

TradeKing definitely needs to be added to this list. They should be prominently featured at the top in a security hall of shame for their cartoonish security. Edit, examples: No 2 factor authentication Displaying the answers to your security questions in multiple choice form (with a none of the above option, but usually including your answer). Requiring your password to be entered with mouse clicks at an on-screen ke…

Please consider sending them a pull request: https://github.com/2factorauth/twofactorauth/pulls

Yes. I am aware, thank you. I was planning to send a pull request to add tradeking if it isn't already there when I get home. I doubt they want a hall of shame pull request -- it seems to be a well structured list.

Re: Two Factor Auth List of Websites

#58
post #21

It always wondered me why my bank can't offer my 2FA with SMS code, but Steam or Github can?

Banks have rules and regulations to adhere to. You'll notice almost all banks have universally the same additional types of security (like the security image/security phrase) and such. Because those fit within the industry standards.

Usually they have an Identity & Access Management solution in place to authenticate users. It does more than just the security image & secret phrase. It also uses hundreds of unique identifiers about your browser & OS to rank if you are the same user that usually logs in. If it's too low they can take additional actions like ask you additional challenge questions, flag your account for review, or lock your account.

Re: Two Factor Auth List of Websites

#59
I think this really should also list which sites will let you download a series of tokens to use in case of mobile phone loss.

I recently forgot my phone at university and realized that I was potentially locked out of many websites.

Re: Two Factor Auth List of Websites

#60
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The TOTP stuff will never be widly used. Its just a total pain to work with. I'm not sure I agree with that. Generating a code: makeQRCode(); Validating a code: validateCode($_POST['2facode'])) { // Login successful } } Then you can just use the 2FA app of your choice (Authy, Google Authenticator, etc.), scan the QR code, and you're good to go.

I have implemented this before. I have it in production right now. The fact is people hate typing stuff from their phone into their computer. Specially if you phone is not always within reaching distance. If you have to do it with tons of different logins you will be annoyed. As long as you have 1-2 accounts its fine, but if we really want to role it out everywhere, we need something better.

What are your thoughts about SQRL?
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