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Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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Does Sega gain anything from not just releasing all the information?

They probably have contractual restrictions - agreements to help fight against unauthorized copying, or to protect the copyrights of people who create games on the system.

And in general, most console systems are a serious bundle of hacks, mostly tolerated by programmers by the sole fact that you can rely on every system to be identical.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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I can't wait for him to start selling these! I would buy one in a hot minute. My Saturn is collecting dust and there are so many games I just can't get my hands on for my Saturn, and emulation in my experience hardly works. It's way too weird a machine.

In case it helps, there is actually a very low tech solution to booting copied games on Saturn hardware that works with the vast majority of games released (especially expensive/rare/hard to find games like the Treasure releases).

Tape/wedge the drive lid sensor down, power up with a real game in (you don't need to close the lid as the sensor believes the lid is always shut) and allow it do the initial copy protection check on your real disc.

At this point it stops the disc for just less than second - just enough time to pull the real disc out and swap in a CD-R. It takes a little practice and potentially can damage the drive motor if your timing is frequently poor.

Games this won't work with are those spanning multiple discs where you need to swap discs in game to progress.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

#53
post #5

I can't wait for him to start selling these! I would buy one in a hot minute. My Saturn is collecting dust and there are so many games I just can't get my hands on for my Saturn, and emulation in my experience hardly works. It's way too weird a machine.

As an Aussie he's going to be subject to the TPPs DMCA-lite restrictions on circumvention devices once it's ratified.

Sad, really, given that the courts here have already ruled that circumvention is your right on equipment that you own.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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post #48
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yabause already exists but it's not a perfect emulator yet. So right now the best way to enjoy games as they were is still the original hardware.

SSF exists and is much better than Yabause, although it's not open source.

Non Open Source emulators are dead in the water in terms of archiving. 10 years later if the original author is not around anymore, you won't be able to rely on it nor improve on it. I wish all emulator writers understood that.

PPSSPP and Dolphin have made great progress BECAUSE they were open.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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post #3

TLDR (or TLDW*)?

Why is this being downvoted? I think it is perfectly reasonable to ask for a TLDR on a 30 minute video. Anyway, the basic story is that the Saturn had copy protection in the form of physical marks on the copy protected CDs. This puts a huge barrier to entry on homebrew and the like, so a guy going by Dr Abrasive tried to reverse engineer a way around that. He first looked into a way of disabling the copy protection o…

It's reasonable to ask for a TLDR for anything. They are better known as abstracts.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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post #5

I can't wait for him to start selling these! I would buy one in a hot minute. My Saturn is collecting dust and there are so many games I just can't get my hands on for my Saturn, and emulation in my experience hardly works. It's way too weird a machine.

There is already an SD card drive for the Saturn. https://gdemu.wordpress.com/

To achieve this did not require fully reverse engineering the cdrom controller but it is great someone did though.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

#57
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to re-play Panzer Dragoon Saga so badly

Panzer Dragoon Orta was on the x-box. :) Sega should really make an HD remastering of all of them though. Or even a new one. Especially after the sadness of Star Fox Zero.

It is rumored that Panzer Dragoon Saga's source code was lost hence no HD version. I am not angry about it.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

#58
post #21

If only the Dreamcast protection had been that good. Was really disappointed when it died :(

You certainly didnt know the history of Sega or the Dreamcast if you think it died because of piracy. ...with that thinking then the Saturn would of been an ultra success.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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post #54
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SSF exists and is much better than Yabause, although it's not open source.

Non Open Source emulators are dead in the water in terms of archiving. 10 years later if the original author is not around anymore, you won't be able to rely on it nor improve on it. I wish all emulator writers understood that. PPSSPP and Dolphin have made great progress BECAUSE they were open.

I would imagine a fair few emulator writers don't much care about maintaining the "backups" fiction, even under the classier name "archiving"
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