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Re: Amazon Has Swallowed Downtown Seattle

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Having worked at Amazon.com, we used to joke that we could get anyone to move to Seattle if they interviewed in August. The summers are pretty amazing in Seattle, but the weather sucks the other 9 months of the year.

You are correct, though ironically the weather today is pea-soup fog, at least in Bellevue ;)

It's not August yet. :)

Re: Amazon Has Swallowed Downtown Seattle

#52

To be honest, the section of the city Amazon has "swallowed" was grass and weed filled parking lots 5 years ago as well as broken down buildings. While the construction has been a drag for drivers in that area, the city looks and feels so much better, IMO, due to their investments. Now, has Amazon invested enough in infrastructure to help the swelling population they are partly to blame for increasing (not to mention…

I've actually stopped shopping at Amazon. I'll pay and extra $10 for high ticket items to avoid that retailer.

I'm sure many of the higher ups there don't have any ill-will, but they have unintentionally (or maybe intentionally; I dunno) become America's new Wal-Mart. That's a bad thing.

Consumerist culture erodes long term sustainability. Laptop/cellphone replacement cycles need to be 10 years, not 2. Old electronics need to be recycled--like actually recycled and not shipped to Africa where teenagers rip out and smelter what components they can.

I'm not saying Amazon is intentionally causing more consumerism, but it is a result of their type of industry. And the effects bleed out in a way you can see in its home city of Seattle.

Re: Amazon Has Swallowed Downtown Seattle

#53

To be honest, the section of the city Amazon has "swallowed" was grass and weed filled parking lots 5 years ago as well as broken down buildings. While the construction has been a drag for drivers in that area, the city looks and feels so much better, IMO, due to their investments. Now, has Amazon invested enough in infrastructure to help the swelling population they are partly to blame for increasing (not to mention…

This, many times over. Yes, Seattle's South Lake Union now looks a lot like downtown San Jose. It's a completely different world from 10 years ago, though, and so much better.

We missed out on a chance to have a giant urban park ("Seattle Commons": http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&...), but credit to Paul Allen for executing an unbelievable plan B.

[Bloomberg's article focuses more on Amazon's new HQ in downtown Seattle, but Amazon's impact today is mostly in South Lake Union. Background: http://www.seattletimes.com/business/real-estate/amazon-will...]

(Source: Born in Seattle and have lived within ~0.5 miles for 10+ years)

Re: Amazon Has Swallowed Downtown Seattle

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I've read that the Bell Labs offices were designed in order to promote collaboration. It was laid out such that there'd be long hallways between the offices and things like restrooms and stairs, so that there'd be greater chances of colleagues bumping into each other and talking about work. I don't have a copy of The Idea Factory[1], where I recall reading this handy, but that's my best recollection. [1] https://www.…

And now we put everyone in open-floorplan barns to "promote colllaboration", with nowhere for people to go back and work at when they are done collaborating. "Hallway conversations" have become "constant conversations"

One of the first things I ask potential employers in my current job search is whether they employ open space office or not, and simply refuse to talk further if they want me to sit with 20+ people in one room. I hope more developers will do it to put some pressure on this matter.

Re: Amazon Has Swallowed Downtown Seattle

#56

To be honest, the section of the city Amazon has "swallowed" was grass and weed filled parking lots 5 years ago as well as broken down buildings. While the construction has been a drag for drivers in that area, the city looks and feels so much better, IMO, due to their investments. Now, has Amazon invested enough in infrastructure to help the swelling population they are partly to blame for increasing (not to mention…

I've actually stopped shopping at Amazon. I'll pay and extra $10 for high ticket items to avoid that retailer. I'm sure many of the higher ups there don't have any ill-will, but they have unintentionally (or maybe intentionally; I dunno) become America's new Wal-Mart. That's a bad thing. Consumerist culture erodes long term sustainability. Laptop/cellphone replacement cycles need to be 10 years, not 2. Old electronic…

Have you considered that maybe the prices of some products are so low because of planned obsolescence? If you want quality, buy Miele. You have a life time guarantee. And you won't have to use it. People who can't afford the quality can buy Samsung. Or do you think people who don't have $10k for a fridge shouldn't have one?

Re: Amazon Has Swallowed Downtown Seattle

#57

To be honest, the section of the city Amazon has "swallowed" was grass and weed filled parking lots 5 years ago as well as broken down buildings. While the construction has been a drag for drivers in that area, the city looks and feels so much better, IMO, due to their investments. Now, has Amazon invested enough in infrastructure to help the swelling population they are partly to blame for increasing (not to mention…

This, many times over. Yes, Seattle's South Lake Union now looks a lot like downtown San Jose. It's a completely different world from 10 years ago, though, and so much better. We missed out on a chance to have a giant urban park ("Seattle Commons": http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&... ), but credit to Paul Allen for executing an unbelievable plan B. [Bloomberg's article focuses more on Amaz…

Sorry for my ignorance, but what's Paul Allen's "plan B"?

Re: Amazon Has Swallowed Downtown Seattle

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"one of the best recruiting tools Amazon has is if people come interview on a nice day, and people are sitting outside having lunch from a food truck." Have they been to Seattle during the months of November to June?

I've lived here for most of my life and I love the weather. Never too hot, never too cold, for just one aspect.

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Re: Amazon Has Swallowed Downtown Seattle

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This, many times over. Yes, Seattle's South Lake Union now looks a lot like downtown San Jose. It's a completely different world from 10 years ago, though, and so much better. We missed out on a chance to have a giant urban park ("Seattle Commons": http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&... ), but credit to Paul Allen for executing an unbelievable plan B. [Bloomberg's article focuses more on Amaz…

Sorry for my ignorance, but what's Paul Allen's "plan B"?

Paul Allen was pushing for the Seattle Commons concept. When it didn't pass, he wound up owning a bunch of land that had no likely tenants. What South Lake Union has become is his "Plan B" because it's his property development company (Vulcan) that has done the lion's share of the building.

Re: Amazon Has Swallowed Downtown Seattle

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"one of the best recruiting tools Amazon has is if people come interview on a nice day, and people are sitting outside having lunch from a food truck." Have they been to Seattle during the months of November to June?

Weather is like many things a very personal matter. Some like it dry, some like it cold, others like it wet. Unfortunately, there seems to be this overwhelming agreement that warm (even humid) is good and anything else is bad. I haven't been to a place yet where saying "good weather" doesn't mean warm and sunny. There is no good or bad weather, if we're honest. No rain equals less water reserves, warm winter in some places equals more bugs in the summer, and so on. The world climate isn't binary and very, very complex. So, wishing for warm and sunny 365 days in every corner of the world is a little foolish and unrealistic, besides not being comfortable to everybody.
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