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How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud

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Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud

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Post by gumshuda »

boulos wrote: post #29
harshal wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Geographic reach is the significant thing holding GCP back at this point - despite being ahead on the tech. Not having a Singapore presence (or anything closer to India) basically kills it as a serious option for many Indian companies. I personally know of a couple of startups personally who would have loved to use GCP since they actually want to use things like BigQuery, but went with AWS due to this. They have so f…

Hmm, our Taiwan region (asia-east1) is too far? We've had a number of customers from India, and thanks to our points-of-presence throughout the world it's not so simple as "AWS is in Singapore, Google is in Taiwan". That said, we hear you, and you can imagine we've done a lot of asking customers (and losing deals!) on the basis of where we are and where we could be. Disclosure: I work on Compute Engine.

AWS is coming to Mumbai(IN) in near future. It will make it give much better performance for us so right now investing time in GCE is difficult to justify.

Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud

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Post by harshal »

boulos wrote: post #29
harshal wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Geographic reach is the significant thing holding GCP back at this point - despite being ahead on the tech. Not having a Singapore presence (or anything closer to India) basically kills it as a serious option for many Indian companies. I personally know of a couple of startups personally who would have loved to use GCP since they actually want to use things like BigQuery, but went with AWS due to this. They have so f…

Hmm, our Taiwan region (asia-east1) is too far? We've had a number of customers from India, and thanks to our points-of-presence throughout the world it's not so simple as "AWS is in Singapore, Google is in Taiwan". That said, we hear you, and you can imagine we've done a lot of asking customers (and losing deals!) on the basis of where we are and where we could be. Disclosure: I work on Compute Engine.

Yes, Taiwan is too far. I personally know of an adtech startup that is going through contortions because they need to stay below latency limits on specific ad exchanges and those exchanges are located in Singapore. Taiwan is certainly way to far for them.

There are other instances where I think additional ~50ms latency diff to from India to Taiwan matters much less and I am dubious if it is material. But what matters if that the difference exists and people believe it does matter.

Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud

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Post by scholia »

shade23 wrote: post #46

Someone from BI or anyone,please fix the """ text in the article.Its distracting considering nearly 30% of the article is quoted by Diane Greene.I guess I am nitpicking or is a fault with my browser?

Sorry if this is not much help, but I'm not seeing any instances of """ in Firefox or Vivaldi (Chromium-based) in Windows 7 Pro.

Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud

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Post by shade23 »

scholia wrote: post #53
shade23 wrote: post #46

Someone from BI or anyone,please fix the """ text in the article.Its distracting considering nearly 30% of the article is quoted by Diane Greene.I guess I am nitpicking or is a fault with my browser?

Sorry if this is not much help, but I'm not seeing any instances of """ in Firefox or Vivaldi (Chromium-based) in Windows 7 Pro.

I just reopened the article on Firefox Aurora too.Its become worse now. I can see

and tags too.Wow

Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud

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Post by wtbob »

partiallypro wrote: post #11
bitmapbrother wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like she said - Chromebooks are very secure and easy to administer. They're also the ideal choice for running Google Apps in the enterprise.

> Google Apps in the enterprise Google Apps for business are so bad though, I genuinely don't know why a company would pick it over 365. I could maybe see an SMB, but 365 is so robust in its offerings and just so much better all around. My former employer was on 365, my new employer is on Google Apps. It's like I've been thrown back into the stone age. (Went from a large corporation to a start-up.) I feel like an SMB…

> My former employer was on 365, my new employer is on Google Apps. It's like I've been thrown back into the stone age.

Oddly enough, we had exactly the opposite experience when a previous employer went from 365 to Google. The Google apps just worked, while the Office 365 apps ranged from hilariously bad (Yammer & Lync) to not completely terrible (the web version of Word) to mostly decent (the web version of Excel).

But man, Yammer & Lync were like a joke after using Hangouts. A really bad joke, told by a sadist. A sadist who is shorting one's stock.

Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud

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Post by mrgriscom »

phonon wrote: post #48
zaroth wrote: post #43

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Yes, but... At her tax bracket and future earning potential, the money is very likely to be worth more as a donation than as income. Total tax rate would be above 50%, but as a donation you get a $1-for-$1 deduction against future income. So the choice is something like 'keep 40 cents on the dollar today, or negate 60 cents on the dollar in taxes tomorrow.' Also, the money isn't really all gone to a 3rd party, it's i…

That doesn't make any sense. The deduction is in the same amount of the income she just received (I assume her basis (since she was a founder) was very low or near zero). It will not be available for "future income". The foundation-type entity is correct though, she will still be overseeing how it's spent.

You just write it off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEL65gywwHQ

Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud

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Post by djhworld »

I'd like to play with google cloud using my personal details but here in the UK it says you need to be a business/commercial entity on the registration page with the following clause

> This service can only be used for business or commercial reasons. You are responsible for assessing and reporting VAT.

whereas Amazon don't seem to stipulate that (at least not explcitly, there might be something in their t+c's) and they deal with all the VAT stuff.

Oh well.

Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud

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Post by coleca »

boulos wrote: post #36
bitmapbrother wrote: post #7

GCP will be adding 2 new regions by the end of 2016 and bringing an additional 10 regions online by the end of 2017. How does this compare to the scale of AWS?

AWS currently has: - three in the US (1 in Virginia, one in Oregon, one in Northern California) - two in Europe (Dublin and Frankfurt) - four in Asia (Singapore, Tokyo, Sydney, Seoul) - one in South America (São Paolo) and both Montreal and India announced. So by part way through 2017, the "numbers" would be sort of comparable but the real factors are your latency requirements, data sovereignty (hello Germany!) and t…

Also one additional region being added to the US this year, Ohio was announced last year.

Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud

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Post by wstrange »

samastur wrote: post #42
jpatokal wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Docs work pretty well offline, and I suspect Google's uptime beats the pants off your average locally administered "shared disk" type office network.

Turns out it doesn't. That may be due luck, but we used both for more than 5 years and our local stuff never went down while Google's did. Difference is probably still in favor of Google because of costs as long as you use local backup copies to avoid being embarassed in important meetings.

That is an interesting anecdote, but as you say - likely more attributed to luck.

Re: How Diane Greene Transformed Google's Cloud

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Post by wstrange »

querulous wrote: post #37

google cloud seems like a repackaging of internal google services which is fine but most companies don't want to migrate existing code to google's homegrown tech. the story for running postgres, oracle, mssql, spark, hadoop, kafka, etc on google cloud is vastly inferior to the same on aws where they either offer it as a managed service or someone else has done and documented the work required to do it

Google offers managed service variants comparable to most of those AWS services. For example - Cloud SQL.

How are these anymore "home grown" than the AWS equivalents?

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