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5 things I knew (or should have) before my startup, but didn't learn until now

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Re: 5 things I knew (or should have) before my startup, but didn't learn until now

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I could talk about reason 5.2 for a whole afternoon. It is one of the best reasons not to compete on price. Additionally, if you're doing ads on Google, there are some weird interactions here that Econ 101 would not predict. For example, although Google describes AdWords as an auction, it is really "auction-like": the highest bid doesn't necessarily win. One factor which can cause lower bids to beat higher bids is if…

If you were to write an AdWords ebook, I would buy it. Like a good one, I could easily rationalize spending lots of money on it.

While I'm happy for the vote of confidence, writing books feels a lot like work to me. Then, after I write it, I get to deal with a lot of email like "WTF dude I can barely afford my ramen and you want $500 for this? That's like $10 a page!? I can buy a sci-fi paperback and get a HARD COPY for only $6!", and that isn't my definition of a good time.

Instead, I prefer using what I know to make money directly (not necessarily limited to increasing my share of the teaching bingo market, hopefully) and possibly doing some consulting. Folks working on their next bowl of ramen can read my blog for free. I get emails saying mostly positive things. Everybody is happy.

Re: 5 things I knew (or should have) before my startup, but didn't learn until now

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Does anyone else who quit their job and went fulltime into their startup want to add anything about their experience? Did it make you a lot more productive? Were you worried about paying the bills? How were you able to stay on track? Where did you find the motivation? How did you stay sane and not go crazy?

For me, I quit full time into doing something completely unrelated. Sure, it was great to be able to work on my own stuff and it did make me more productive. However, it has its ups and downs. I found that I needed a '3 day weekend' every two weeks, or else I'd mentally refuse to work on it even if I was pushing myself.

Wasn't too worried about paying the bills as I was living in my parents' basement. However, the drawback of that is the same as having too much money--doesn't make you anxious enough to figure out how to get to ramen profitability.

It wasn't too hard to stay on track if you're use to seeing things to the end, or if you're into what you do, or you believe in it. What's difficult is deciding when to quit. Do you have little users because your product sucks? Or because you don't know where to find them? If not, how do you? Is there something here, but you're not doing it right, or is there really not anything there?

Having been through that as a single founder for a little less than two years was a lonely at times, but you just get use to it after a while. If anything, it's toughened me up a little.

Overall, I think quitting your job isn't quite as scary as one may think, especially if you use your time to learn and grow. Chances are, you'll learn a lot (what, people never say, but it's one of those experience things), and you won't end up in the gutter. If I've discovered anything, it's that the world is a bigger place than you can imagine. People do all sorts of things to make money, and you find opportunities and opportunities find you as long as you do something of meaning to yourself, can teach others, and can build something and get it out there for others to use.

If I had a regret these last four years, it's that I didn't learn faster, and that I didn't quit sooner. That said, don't quit willy-nilly. Have a plan and have goals. Those plans and goals might change, but as long as you know what you're going to be learning out of the experience, that's what counts.

Re: 5 things I knew (or should have) before my startup, but didn't learn until now

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Does anyone else who quit their job and went fulltime into their startup want to add anything about their experience? Did it make you a lot more productive? Were you worried about paying the bills? How were you able to stay on track? Where did you find the motivation? How did you stay sane and not go crazy?

I quit my job last December to start Pretty Graph. I have enough savings to keep me going for just over a year. So, I need to get to ramen profitable asap.

I'm really enjoying my work. I have two part-time co-founders, who have quite busy jobs. So, sometimes things get hard to do on my own, but it was never going to be easy.

It is very satisfying to work on something that I really care about and want to build into something great over time. One thing I love about my new work life is the time I can take to pause and think through things. It's nice to just lighten things up sometimes, not take myself too seriously and just feel happy that I'm doing what I love in a city I love (London) with so much freedom.

Getting up in the morning has never been so easy and going to bed never so hard!

Re: 5 things I knew (or should have) before my startup, but didn't learn until now

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We too have learned the hard way about 5.: customer acquisition is tough. 5.1. We'd read it before but hadn't quite internalized the cardinal rule: Cost of Customer Acquisition 5.2. It's easy to think "hey my product costs me only $1, and the competition charges $100: I'll do great by just charging $10". But when you're charging $10 you won't be able to pay $30 per ad click, and so will (continue to) lose customers t…

I could talk about reason 5.2 for a whole afternoon. It is one of the best reasons not to compete on price. Additionally, if you're doing ads on Google, there are some weird interactions here that Econ 101 would not predict. For example, although Google describes AdWords as an auction, it is really "auction-like": the highest bid doesn't necessarily win. One factor which can cause lower bids to beat higher bids is if…

The interesting part of this 'don't compete on price' advice is that in many markets (the market I am in included) marketing is often more than half what you are getting from the customer. In the example above, instead of paying $12-$15 per customer to goog, what about dropping your price by $10 and seeing what happens? If your product is comparable, it only takes one reddit article comparing you to the competition to get a whole lot of interest.

I can tell you from experience that if you can undercut the competition by half, you get a lot of slack when it comes to not having all the cool features the other guy has.

One of the things that I think many people miss about competing on price is that if you don't have the marketing muscle of the compititon, you need to be dramatic about your price. few will go with an unknown to save 10%; but if you can save 50%, well, that's a pretty good argument to go do some research on that unknown company, no?

(Overall, my position on the 'compete on price' / 'never compete on price' debate is "do what you are good at" - if you are good at selling to people with money, sure. charge a premium and take advantage of your connections and skillset. Rich people and large corporations need stuff, and there's nothing wrong with giving it to them. On the other hand, if you are good at being cheap and bad at selling, well, maybe you should think about attracting the attention of people willing to do research by lowering your price.)

Re: 5 things I knew (or should have) before my startup, but didn't learn until now

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Interesting, i'm a technical sole founder who is very capable of doing EVERYTHING, though i would be much more efficient if i could compartmentalize. I'm constantly on the lookout for my "otherhalf" but can't quite find any non-technicals that seem up-to-snuff any tips on what to look for in a non-technical co-founder? Nobody in the world has Bill’s exact skill set, and looking back on it, that skill set is exactly w…

Single founder here who thinks the emphasis on co-founders on HN is overrated. Investors may see it as a credentialing and stabilizing mechanism, but once risk is taken out of the picture and a product has revenue it only makes sense to bring someone else on board if they'll more than cover their costs and a co-founder is the most expensive hire there is at that point.

I think it depends on your skillset, too. Some of us have a hard time sharing control. Personally, this is one of the reasons I've always wanted to run my own company. I mean, It's possible, with the right person, that it'd turn out okay, (I'm looking at you, Chris.) but in general, not having the ability to say "Uh, no, it's my company, we're doing it my way." is something I'm loathe to give up.

Now, I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing; For as long as I've been running my company, I've had excellent people helping me. If you can hire smart, you can get talent cheap. And let's be honest; no other sane person would have stuck with me for the four years I took bringing prgmr.com into profitability. If I had taken on a co-founder rather than just paying people, the company would have died a long time ago.

However, I think that investors might be on to something when they filter me out; I mean, I would have the exact same problems with investors as I'd have with co-founders. (this is causing some problems now that my bottleneck is capital rather than marketing or anything else.)

Re: 5 things I knew (or should have) before my startup, but didn't learn until now

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I recently saw a post on Hacker News, where somebody created a [find-a-cofounder] spreadsheet. ... Literally 99% of the rows read something like this: "I am a business guy/entrepreneur/mba/professional; I am looking for a technical cofounder;"

No. It's "literally" around 20% to 30%. The rest were tech people looking for business types or other tech people. Here's the spreadsheet: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AgCvDTyBjHdOdDFfMENq...

You were lazy (you didn't even bother to google that spreadsheet and look) and spoke in platitudes/over-generalizations and reiterated conventional wisdom. Shame on you. The truth is not only different but much more interesting.

Everyone knows that it's easy to have an idea.

No, it's not. So many of those entries are people who are technical but looking for a good idea to work on. "Business types are a dime a dozen." Not so. A good business development person will rock your project. How many great, but dead, sites are out there? Plenty.

Picking the right cofounder is important.

Fuck that nonsense. You're mouthing the words someone else gave you. If you have an organic cofounder -- great; go for it. I'm not against having cofounders. But if you think for one moment that a project needs more than one founder, and you have to pick one for the project to succeed, you simply don't know what you're talking about.

Re: 5 things I knew (or should have) before my startup, but didn't learn until now

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"Traction is the only thing that matters." I could not agree more with this. If you get traction everything else falls into place so really you should be spending all your time figuring out how to do this and then making it happen. The problem is as you say, it is of course non-trivial. However, while all cases are different, I do think there are strategies and best practices that one can employ. Your next post shoul…

Hey, great idea for a book. Just one extremely minor suggestion: use a better cover image for the book :) The existing one is fine but I think it can be improved a lot to give it a more professional and serious look.

Thx. Yeah, that's just a placeholder.

Re: 5 things I knew (or should have) before my startup, but didn't learn until now

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I recently saw a post on Hacker News, where somebody created a [find-a-cofounder] spreadsheet. ... Literally 99% of the rows read something like this: "I am a business guy/entrepreneur/mba/professional; I am looking for a technical cofounder;" No. It's "literally" around 20% to 30%. The rest were tech people looking for business types or other tech people. Here's the spreadsheet: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?ke…

>'But if you think for one moment that a project needs more than one founder, and you have to pick one for the project to succeed, you simply don't know what you're talking about'

Not that I agree with you completely. But I think it is important to not take an influential person (like pg)'s words for granted without your own critical thinking and some healthy doubts.

Like PG said, a lot of startup fails because they're single founders (without emotional support and other reasons). However,If you pick a co-founder just because PG or other VCs/bloggers said so, a lot of times, your co-founder will be the source of your failure.

Every person's situation/problem is different and all roads lead to Rome. I am kind of disappointed that PG developed a "formula" and believes that everyone should fit into that formula. If you don't, you're out of the game.

A good hacker finds his ways to make the system works for him by breaking the rules (or by finding the hidden rules that seems to defy the written rules).

You ready to break PG's rules?

Re: 5 things I knew (or should have) before my startup, but didn't learn until now

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I think it is important to not take an influential person (like pg)'s words for granted without your own critical thinking and some healthy doubts.

Like PG said, a lot of startup fails because they're single founders (without emotional support and other reasons).

However,If you pick a co-founder just because PG or other VCs/bloggers said so, a lot of the times, your co-founder will be the source of your failure.

Every person's situation/problem is different and all roads lead to Rome. I am kind of disappointed that PG developed a "formula" and insists that everyone should fit into that formula. If you don't, you're out of the game.

A good hacker finds his ways to make a system work for him by breaking the rules (or by finding the hidden rules that seems to defy the written rules).

Are you ready to break PG's rules?

Re: 5 things I knew (or should have) before my startup, but didn't learn until now

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I agree with most of the article, except on the following points:

> 1. If you are not full time, then you are at a huge disadvantage

There are pros and cons. If you are your own investor, then working full time on one project is also putting all your eggs in the same basket.

Also having multiple projects allows to make a better prioritization (ie: remove crap) in my experience.

> 2. ... Your cofounder should be somebody that refuses to quit

My opinion is quite the contrary: I'd never pick a cofounder that refuses to quit when it makes sense.

'The Dip' is the obvious recommended book on that topic.

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