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Re: A Symbol Neo-Nazis Use to Target Jews Online

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> What's not... allowed... is using the echo to call people to harass and threat a specific person. Wouldn't the layman interpret all 'echo's as a call to action? Do you hold one user accountable for drawing attention to a user who is now receiving messages from third parties?

> Do you hold one user accountable for drawing attention to a user who is now receiving messages from third parties Inciting violence against a person makes you responsible for the violence that follows; let's not pretend this is something different - it's not.

Internet messages are violence now?

Re: A Symbol Neo-Nazis Use to Target Jews Online

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I wonder if there's a way to counter/reclaim this -- put your own name in ((()))?

Do we have to be Jewish to do so? My background is Scotch-Irish hill folk, but my given name is (((Jesse))) so that should work?

"Scots-Irish" is also code for "Jewish" in some internet circles believe it or not.

Re: A Symbol Neo-Nazis Use to Target Jews Online

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Sure! It also happens to be free speech to write articles which highlight such examples of public prejudice for a larger audience.

It's surely free speech to write articles suggesting free speech be curtailed. It's also free speech to disagree with censorship. What's your point? (GP didn't seem to be expressing an issue with the article having been written, but with the article's suggestion that Twitter (and other media) need to do more to censor hate speech. In that context this comment is non sequitur.)

Free speech and Twitter are unrelated concepts. Twitter has no responsibility to enforce free speech and can do whatever the hell it wants, although it can be subject to user backlash.

Re: A Symbol Neo-Nazis Use to Target Jews Online

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> Do you hold one user accountable for drawing attention to a user who is now receiving messages from third parties Inciting violence against a person makes you responsible for the violence that follows; let's not pretend this is something different - it's not.

Internet messages are violence now?

s/violence/harassment/

Re: A Symbol Neo-Nazis Use to Target Jews Online

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Please excuse my naïveté, and I do not share the opinions of the neo-nazis, but isn't it part of free speech to able to use these symbols and to be prejudiced? Edit: My follow-up question: Why then is it Twitter's responsibility to censor such speech?

There's a difference between free speech and harassment. It's perfectly legal to use the echo in a Tweet. What's not legal (or at least isn't allowed on most social media platforms) is using the echo to call people to harass and threat a specific person. For example, it's legal to say/tweet "Bob Smith is a little bitch" It's not legal to send Bob Smith 50 messages telling him he's a little bitch and threatening to mu…

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Re: A Symbol Neo-Nazis Use to Target Jews Online

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> Do you hold one user accountable for drawing attention to a user who is now receiving messages from third parties Inciting violence against a person makes you responsible for the violence that follows; let's not pretend this is something different - it's not.

Internet messages are violence now?

Intimidation, threat of harm, and incitement are generally illegal whether they're on the Internet, in a letter, or delivered in person.

Re: A Symbol Neo-Nazis Use to Target Jews Online

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"people here can get pretty salty when I admit I am a white nationalist" is probably the most positive thing I've heard anyone say about HN in years.

I call it the San Francisco bubble. Fortunately, it's just a bubble. ;P

I'm not in San Francisco, not in California, not part of the startup scene, and I'm white, but yet I am proud to be part of that "bubble". But I agree with untog, it's the civilized world bubble. It's the white nationalists that are part of a (shrinking) bubble.

TL;DR: The country is not with you, unlinker. Even the whites aren't with you.

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