oh, wordpress, the burner, breaker of balls, mother of confusion, queen of the seven installs, protector of the bots. blood of my blood, i bow to you and swear my allegiance until the internet shall break.
WordPress is now 13 years old
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Re: WordPress is now 13 years old
#52Wordpress is still massively popular and after 13 years, I hope this still isn't true: wordpress is an unauthenticated remote shell that, as a useful side feature, also contains a blog
The core is hopefully audited and so far except some XSS problems no remote exploits are know for the last few years?
However having an usable remote exploit gives you a shell on more than 20% of the websites.
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#53Is there a killer feature for wordpress except that it is in Php which is available in shared hosting services?
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#54The fundamental lesson WordPress taught me is that the product wins over technology. Even back in 2004 it was clear that the internal code wasn't that great. So what? It installed delightfully quickly, and let me create posts with valid markup and good typography right out the box. And then the community management and plugin/theme ecosystem. For example, Drupal may have a more programmer-approved API, but (at least…
"product over technology". Yep. That is what keeps it going. I have been doing a bit of wordpress lately and it just works for users. Sure, developers love to hate it and reasonably so to an extent but try telling that to the folks who are making millions with wordpress (woothemes as an example). There is a reason for that.
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#55The community and massive amount of plugins developers created and still create for Wordpress contributes to its success.
Same thing with Minecraft. The huge community of modders pushed Minecraft to be as huge as it is.
Developers flock to both because they themselves can gain recognition and make money off these platforms.
I personally love the success story of both because they both started off small and initially had no intention of getting this big.
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#56Say what you will about WordPress - its codebase, security, speed, architecture, DB schema, whatever. Haters are going to hate. It's a pretty amazing accomplishment what Automattic has done by staying so popular and relevant for so long. Looking at it from a non-hardcore programmer's perspective: * Quick to learn backend * Easy to use plugins for non-devs * Painfully maintaining backwards compatibility overtime * It…
"Haters are going to hate." -- by using that phrase you make it sound like people are criticizing WordPress without cause.
I haven't looked into it recently, but as I remember it, in the last 13 years there have been abundant legitimate reasons to criticize WordPress (many in the categories you listed). Yes, some people will hate on something just because they don't like it (regardless of any merit it may have). But I wouldn't lump in all of the people with legit criticisms of WordPress into the same group as "haters".
Re: WordPress is now 13 years old
#5713 years ago Movable Type and Blogger owned the space. MT was for folks who wanted to install software on their own server, Blogger for those who wanted a hosted option. Blogger was bought by Google a few months before WP appeared.
I <3 Movable Type. Used it for several years and got really sad when it started declining. Only started using Wordpress late in the game and never got to understand their template system. MT and Blogger was less complicated.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're not going to install plugins, doesn't it neuter one of the big draws to using WordPress in the first place? Ideally there would be better separation between the plugin and core stuff, but oh well.
I usually only install one or two plugins on client sites. The main draw is the fairly good interface and the extremely wide brand familiarity. If you know what you're doing with it, it can be a very nice admin experience.
That may be so, but if all you want is a nice interface I think there are lots of non-WordPress options.
Re: WordPress is now 13 years old
#59The fundamental lesson WordPress taught me is that the product wins over technology. Even back in 2004 it was clear that the internal code wasn't that great. So what? It installed delightfully quickly, and let me create posts with valid markup and good typography right out the box. And then the community management and plugin/theme ecosystem. For example, Drupal may have a more programmer-approved API, but (at least…
I agree, though I think the most important distinction was that WordPress had an audience and core ideas in mind, whereas the likes of Drupal tried to be a generic 'everything to everyone' solution. The former was designed to be easy to use for average Joes, the latter seems like it was designed to be fun for developers while being rather awkward for normal users.
Points 1 and 2 here basically sum it up:
https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2011/11/wordpress-cms-crown...
Re: WordPress is now 13 years old
#60The fundamental lesson WordPress taught me is that the product wins over technology. Even back in 2004 it was clear that the internal code wasn't that great. So what? It installed delightfully quickly, and let me create posts with valid markup and good typography right out the box. And then the community management and plugin/theme ecosystem. For example, Drupal may have a more programmer-approved API, but (at least…
Agreed. Drupal has been working on the product end of things since then, for this exact reason. Drupal 8 is a big improvement on that score and is worth looking at again if you've choked on it in the past.