Throws a lot of shade. He is good at the "I don't enjoy feeling like a victim. Victims are bad. Here is a list of why we are victimized."
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#52Parent comment was never a conservitive or Republican, they are just a Bernie supporter lying about being a former conservative in an attmpt to make their argument carry more legitimacy.
Why does that carry more legitimacy? And is it so hard to believe someone raised as a conservative could change their minds?
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#53I'm a Republican. Been working in or for valley companies since 1998. Engineering then business. The last five years I've felt my views become increasingly marginalized. The left in the valley has become increasingly vocal, from the c-suite down, and I've been reluctant to express my views for fear of retaliation (See Mozilla's ex-CEO.) The valley isn't a place focused on the innovation and free thinking that gave it…
There is a difference between supporting a strong defense and donating money to anti-LGBT campaigns.
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#55I'm a Republican. Been working in or for valley companies since 1998. Engineering then business. The last five years I've felt my views become increasingly marginalized. The left in the valley has become increasingly vocal, from the c-suite down, and I've been reluctant to express my views for fear of retaliation (See Mozilla's ex-CEO.) The valley isn't a place focused on the innovation and free thinking that gave it…
>The last five years I've felt my views become increasingly marginalized
From a conservative/libertarian outlook... wouldn't that be your problem to solve? Isn't the conservative position that if we just remove big government equality should work itself out?
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
He mentions Brendan Eich who was ousted from Mozilla for his anti-gay views. I have little sympathy for someone who feels marginalized by views they choose to hold and express when I, as a gay man, could be marginalized simply for who I am, something I did NOT choose. While most people may be able to just put their political opinions on the shelf, any time discussion turns towards family or after-work hobbies I have…
There was no evidence Eich was anti-gay. It was discovered he had donated to Prop 8, the California initiative which restated the status quo, that marriage is between one man and one woman, and which passed by a majority of California voters. For that political donation, he was ostracized and effectively run out of his job in Silicon Valley. San Francisco has always been one of the most liberal cities in the country,…
Do you really see no problem with telling others who they can and can't marry?
I can't see myself supporting or working for a CEO that thinks it's okay to donate to Propositions that support this level of imposition on other peoples'lives. I guess the board of Firefox agreed.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
He mentions Brendan Eich who was ousted from Mozilla for his anti-gay views. I have little sympathy for someone who feels marginalized by views they choose to hold and express when I, as a gay man, could be marginalized simply for who I am, something I did NOT choose. While most people may be able to just put their political opinions on the shelf, any time discussion turns towards family or after-work hobbies I have…
There was no evidence Eich was anti-gay. It was discovered he had donated to Prop 8, the California initiative which restated the status quo, that marriage is between one man and one woman, and which passed by a majority of California voters. For that political donation, he was ostracized and effectively run out of his job in Silicon Valley. San Francisco has always been one of the most liberal cities in the country,…
From your perspective, restricting marriage to a man and a woman isn't anti-gay. And that belief isn't inherently anti-gay in my view. But the real effect of enforcing laws surrounding that view includes: missing tax breaks, missing legal protections, not being able to visit your dying partner because you aren't next of kin. So the real world outcomes of the legal enforcement of that view are anti-gay and unfair.
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#58You obviously live in an echo chamber so let me explain it to you; If you believe that every life is sacred and has intrinsic value simply for being alive, and believe that a fetus is a life at the moment of conception, than abortion is murder and no different than gunning someone down in the street. Therefore abortion should be illegal. This isn't even a religious argument. For your friends that had their contracept…
Name calling followed by a smiley face is still name calling.
Christians are the dominant majority in this country. Yet some of them won't shut up about being persecuted. I doubt they seriously follow the teachings of jesus christ.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
If your views are in favour of the repression and marginalisation of others then you will find yourself in the minority in the left coast. I'm sorry, the right hold some pretty reprehensible views on gay marriage, police brutality, the poor and working class, and women's rights. Then, when they are called on their bullshit all of the sudden they are the victim. The rest of the world does not apologise if reality has…
This is the most simplistic, binary thinking. Coke vs. Pepsi. There is more to the World than "Left vs. Right". Such as economic vs. Social. Authoritarian vs. Libertarian is another sliding scale axis and probably more relevant here.
Just saying there are two sides doesn't make it so. In all the debates there is the right and there is everyone else.
Examples: Gun control: The right, absolutely no controls. Everyone else is a sliding scale of limited access, limited capacity to complete removal.
The right has set themselves apart by not even wanting to negotiate. There is no sliding scale to them. Elected politicians that want to stay elected adhere to Grover Norquist and the Bush Doctrine. What's the sliding scale on that?
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#60> "What happened to us?" The thing that drove me, a lifelong conservative, into the arms of Bernie Sanders; the Republican party (and the conservative group in particular) are so hard core on social issues that are to be blunt, disgusting (things like preventing homosexual marriage and abortion) and completely antithetical to the idea of "keeping government out of things." No I don't like everything the Left wants to…
Your question is probably rhetorical, but it happened because the Republican party decided they needed to bring social conservatives (especially Southern whites disaffected by the Civil Rights Act) into their coalition. See "Southern strategy" [1]. I believe anti-choice specifically was brought into the party platform during the Ford years. Outright homophobia was pretty mainstream until well into the 90s, and wasn't…
Actually it wasn't, I appreciate the links. Thanks.