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Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Mixtapes are kind of the open-source version of rap music. Sort of free to download, remix, and distribute. Sort of... Almost every rapper who is popular right now (meaning, being played on the radio, touring...) has released their music for FREE, months, if not years, before being available for sale on iTunes, or CD. Sure, the iTunes version was mastered by someone who wasn't stoned, but it's pretty crazy that argua…

The worst part was that DatPiff has finally started putting quality control mechanism in the past two or three years or so to get separate legitimate content from artists (wheat) from the chaff and artists continued putting out their content for free. Apple's, among other streaming services, has impacted this music negatively, and whether you are a fan of rap music or not, it does set a precedent that affects all sty…

> Apple's, among other streaming services, has impacted this music negatively, and whether you are a fan of rap music or not, it does set a precedent that affects all styles, genres, and tastes of music.

I don't share this interpretation: look at Drake, Wiz, Kid Cudi, 50 Cent, A$ap Rocky, The Weeknd, Chance, Young Thug + the rest of the 1017 label, Lil Wayne. These are people who found success on amazing mixtapes, and now those streaming services allow the artists to get paid for content they expected to release for free or for publicity's sake.

I'd throw in Kendrick but he didn't really blow up until Section 80, which was an early itunes exclusive(?) rather than a mixtape.

Besides, I don't see DatPiff going away any time soon. Coloring Book will be on there in under two weeks.

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

#53
A lot of stuff on DatPiff has been removed because of copyright claims.

Rick Ross's last mixtape: "Black Dollar" is a classic, and was debuted on DatPiff. Now when I look for it on there, I get this: http://www.datpiff.com/Rick-Ross-Black-Dollar-mixtape.732049...

Jeremy Banks is a copyright lawyer with IFPI (International Federation of the Phonographic Industry).

I see that OP uploaded Rick Ross - Black Dollar to this collection. What'll happen if Jeremy Banks demands it be taken down?

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, go take a look at Dubset and their Mixbank approach - it's advertised as a way for DJs / remix producers / mixtape creators to get their versions approved and out into the wild and both parties (original and derivative version) are compensated according to some deals hammered out. It looks like progress is coming in this arena - SoundCloud probably has a lot of those deals in place now (they're claiming the days…

Soundcloud currently denies, but there are huge rumors that they are about to crack down a lot of DJ mixes again. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/following-licensing-deals-soundcl... I have switched to Mixcloud for all my mixes, but not ideal because their streaming can be flaky and you can't scroll back in time.

Interesting, I saw some mention of that via Billboard I think. Agreed that MixCloud has its hiccups and drawbacks but at least trying to be in the space 'n nice 'n tidy 'n legal. Plus me like free.

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The worst part was that DatPiff has finally started putting quality control mechanism in the past two or three years or so to get separate legitimate content from artists (wheat) from the chaff and artists continued putting out their content for free. Apple's, among other streaming services, has impacted this music negatively, and whether you are a fan of rap music or not, it does set a precedent that affects all sty…

> Apple's, among other streaming services, has impacted this music negatively, and whether you are a fan of rap music or not, it does set a precedent that affects all styles, genres, and tastes of music. I don't share this interpretation: look at Drake, Wiz, Kid Cudi, 50 Cent, A$ap Rocky, The Weeknd, Chance, Young Thug + the rest of the 1017 label, Lil Wayne. These are people who found success on amazing mixtapes, an…

You gear content towards Apple vs selling out the trunk and the content will change. Arguably for the worse. People will get paid but it definitely will not be the same.

If you use 50 as an example, he absolutely would not exist with his early mixtapes. You cannot release those on an official platform without running the risk of getting sued into oblivion. No label is going to back something like that. I also am not a fan of the curation process with a lot of these streaming services and definitely do not have any faith that you will be able to discover some unknown talented rapper in the way that you could with someone you've been buying shit from and you know they only carried good stuff.

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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This was my main way of finding new music when I was younger.

The problem is DJ Whatever will often just steal a bunch of popular tracks and turn them into a tape without any input from the artist.

Once you filter that out you'll find some gems. Bishop Lamont put out so many I feel he's already released his best work

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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I'm impressed by the effort he put into this. But I can't find anything older then 2002. I mean the most interesting times where anything before, especially the 80s & 90s. Did I miss something or this this just a huge load of more or less modern mix tapes leaving out all the old gold nuggets from the good times ? I understand that these tapes are scraped from torrents which might be the reason that most analogue cass…

I'm listening to this blast from my past: https://archive.org/download/Kool_DJ_Red_Alert_-_Radio_Mix_9... Even has Scott La Rock up front...

How did you find that? I was going to echo the GP, about 2002 being the earliest visible through the date sort (so far).

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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I'm impressed by the effort he put into this. But I can't find anything older then 2002. I mean the most interesting times where anything before, especially the 80s & 90s. Did I miss something or this this just a huge load of more or less modern mix tapes leaving out all the old gold nuggets from the good times ? I understand that these tapes are scraped from torrents which might be the reason that most analogue cass…

Yeah I was listening to hip hop mix tapes in the mid-1980s...I was hoping to see real old school.

Re: Thousands of Hip Hop Mix Tapes, Why Not

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I'm impressed by the effort he put into this. But I can't find anything older then 2002. I mean the most interesting times where anything before, especially the 80s & 90s. Did I miss something or this this just a huge load of more or less modern mix tapes leaving out all the old gold nuggets from the good times ? I understand that these tapes are scraped from torrents which might be the reason that most analogue cass…

Jason Scott here.

Most of the comments don't need me, but I did want to address this. I've been ingesting tapes daily by the hundreds for the past week, and it's natural that the collection skews towards the new, since I can get those at arm's reach, singly, with little (relative) effort. I've still got a way to go with the 17,000 tapes I have information on (again, pretty much all post-2000) and then I will either find older sources, or will be contacted by people with caches of older sources.

So, I'd say, "give it time", and remind the people who are not happy that Internet Archive is a library/archive and can only move as fast as it can. But it does move.

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