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Re: Hashtags Instagram Won’t Let You Search

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Post by ad-hominem »

Kristine1975 wrote: post #40
kbart wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open any porn site and I'm sure you will find these tags as top categories. It's not Twitter deciding it's pornographic or not, but users that use them as such, so admins simply have to react (unless you want Twitter to be overflown with gay/lesbian/bi porn).

>so admins simply have to react They should react in a fashion that does not involve blocking hashtags with multiple meanings.

I agree, they are doing irreparable harm to the dozens of instagram ornithologists in love with Paridae by blocking #tit

save the ornithologists! Unblock #tits!

Re: Hashtags Instagram Won’t Let You Search

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Post by WillPostForFood »

kelukelugames wrote: post #25
gyosko wrote: post #17

> #italiano Really?

Italiano looks PG at worst. https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/italiano/ Kansas is weird. https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/kansas/

“Recent posts from #kansas are currently hidden because the community has reported some content that may not meet Instagram’s community guidelines.”

You aren't seeing the presumably bad stuff when you go to /explore because it is being hidden.

Re: Hashtags Instagram Won’t Let You Search

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Post by [deleted] »

mjolk wrote: post #45
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Which presumably show racism towards Italians, a hatred of the midwest, and a dislike of football? If that was a consistent pattern, maybe, but I am yet to hear of it. > Or maybe Instagram has an automated system which correlated hashtags with reported porn. > I'm wary of waving the racism / sexism / whatism flag. We're not all racist. We're not all sexist. Maybe it's automated, sure. Maybe it's not directly intend…

>Also, no, everyone is racist and sexist to varying extents, it's not a binary. Humans are imperfect. Not everyone and everything is racist and sexist, stop peddling this histrionic narrative. If it's automated, are you claiming that algorithms are racist or sexist? The outcome isn't shaming a sexual orientation any more than x + 3 = 9 is "six shaming."

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Re: Hashtags Instagram Won’t Let You Search

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Post by drdeca »

mjolk wrote: post #45
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Which presumably show racism towards Italians, a hatred of the midwest, and a dislike of football? If that was a consistent pattern, maybe, but I am yet to hear of it. > Or maybe Instagram has an automated system which correlated hashtags with reported porn. > I'm wary of waving the racism / sexism / whatism flag. We're not all racist. We're not all sexist. Maybe it's automated, sure. Maybe it's not directly intend…

>Also, no, everyone is racist and sexist to varying extents, it's not a binary. Humans are imperfect. Not everyone and everything is racist and sexist, stop peddling this histrionic narrative. If it's automated, are you claiming that algorithms are racist or sexist? The outcome isn't shaming a sexual orientation any more than x + 3 = 9 is "six shaming."

Presumably the claim would be that it contributes to a phenomenon which is considered harmful, and that there is an obligation to have it not do that.

Now, I don't know that I agree with that claim (certainly not without reservations at least), but I think that the idea of an algorithm contributing to a harmful phenomenon, and that being bad, is not an obviously wrong idea.

I don't think your argument against theirs is a very good one. Something better than your x + 3 = 9 quip would be needed to refute it.

I'm saying this as someone who also disagrees with the worldview you are arguing against.

/epistemic virtue signaling

Re: Hashtags Instagram Won’t Let You Search

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Post by mjolk »

drdeca wrote: post #54
mjolk wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Also, no, everyone is racist and sexist to varying extents, it's not a binary. Humans are imperfect. Not everyone and everything is racist and sexist, stop peddling this histrionic narrative. If it's automated, are you claiming that algorithms are racist or sexist? The outcome isn't shaming a sexual orientation any more than x + 3 = 9 is "six shaming."

Presumably the claim would be that it contributes to a phenomenon which is considered harmful, and that there is an obligation to have it not do that. Now, I don't know that I agree with that claim (certainly not without reservations at least), but I think that the idea of an algorithm contributing to a harmful phenomenon, and that being bad, is not an obviously wrong idea. I don't think your argument against theirs…

The (management or computer) algorithm is likely designed to cut down on pornography and/or "offensive content"; the correlation of the terms bi, lesbian, or gay as metadata to explicit images is likely to be large on a visual platform. If anything is offensive, it's the quickness to jump to "I'm offended by logical explanations and I refuse to come up with practical solutions." Which is to say, I believe that the claim was infantile and deliberatively obtuse. Obviously it wasn't meant as a slight against sexual identity and if you want things to be better, get to work and stop complaining (which is unlikely to happen because complaining is easy and fixing things is hard).

Sometimes a cute riposte or simple response is all that's needed to defuse absurdity. Debating with someone plainly calling everyone racist and sexist isn't likely to bear fruit.

I wish we could get to a state in which the professionally offended would stop wasting others' time and encouraging this doublespeak-nonsense game -- there's only so many minutes in the day and we both wasted daylight on this.

Re: Hashtags Instagram Won’t Let You Search

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Post by CM30 »

Well, that was a pretty silly list. Most of the hashtags here seem to be pretty normal or harmless stuff, at least to anyone above the age of about six.

Also, not a fan of this being done because 'some' content under those tags was reported as inappropriate.

Re: Hashtags Instagram Won’t Let You Search

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Post by dunkerz »

marc_omorain wrote: post #2

This reminds me of Shutterstock's open-source List of Dirty Naughty Obscene and Otherwise Bad Words: https://github.com/shutterstock/List-of-Dirty-Naughty-Obscen...

Some of the finnish ones:

jätkä - meaning literally "dude" hatullinen - hatful lahtari - an outdated word; I doubt many young people know the meaning/context of it. It was an insulting way to call the people on the white side during our civil war in 1918 pehko - thick hair

Re: Hashtags Instagram Won’t Let You Search

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Post by kelukelugames »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #52
kelukelugames wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Italiano looks PG at worst. https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/italiano/ Kansas is weird. https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/kansas/

“Recent posts from #kansas are currently hidden because the community has reported some content that may not meet Instagram’s community guidelines.” You aren't seeing the presumably bad stuff when you go to /explore because it is being hidden.

Ah thanks. Now I'm more curious.

Re: Hashtags Instagram Won’t Let You Search

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

Kristine1975 wrote: post #10
marc_omorain wrote: post #2

This reminds me of Shutterstock's open-source List of Dirty Naughty Obscene and Otherwise Bad Words: https://github.com/shutterstock/List-of-Dirty-Naughty-Obscen...

Interesting. "anal" is a bad word in English, but not in German. On the other hand, "naked" is a bad word in German, but not in English. Maybe I should send a pull request...

There is also the data analysis perspective: http://qr.ae/8W4Pz1 :)
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