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Re: The Great Suspender: Free up memory by suspending inactive Chrome tabs

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What I do, when Chrome, or rather, my abuse of it (14 windows, 735 tabs at the moment, Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit on a 32 GiB system) becomes onerous is to go to the task manager and kill groups of tabs taking up "too much" memory, and very occasionally, too much CPU. (I get away with that abuse, which it a bit higher right now because I'm in the process of buying a house, by killing all tabs after launching, and only enabl…

I'm genuinely interested in the reasons people maintain so many tabs open. What type of workflow you have when you end up with so much stuff open? How do you get back to some of those tabs? Wouldn't it be easier to just google it again when you need it instead of having it lingering around and wasting your HW resources?

Heh.

First, echoing some other comments, this is a test of these web browsers. My Pale Moon instance (a Firefox fork), which I use much less "actively" and with NoScript running on it, has 42 windows with 2119 tabs, but Firefox is smart about only loading tabs on demand. On the other hand, I have to restart Palemoon regularly, to prevent it from getting unhappy I do so on every even numbered day. I also run a Firefox instance with 12 windows and 62 tabs.

The workflow is roughly:

Windows cover one or a related set of subjects. I know by position which are were, and hit specific tabs at regular schedules. Any site I hit multiple times a day has its window on that tab.

Additional tabs are of course things to get back to. Maybe to digest at a later time, maybe only if an issue is still relevant. I do regularly archive whole windows or most of them using Session Buddy or Session Manager for Firefox/Palemoon.

For me, this sort of spacial navigation works a lot better than any bookmark system or the like that i've seen. I have very very good 3D spacial ability (organic chemistry was easy), so I'm sure that's a major factor in why this is right for me and wouldn't be right for many others.

And at this very moment those hardware resources are for the wasting, at some point after I buy my house, move into it, and my life is 1/10 as crazy as it is now I hope to e.g. be running serious and hungry proof assistants and other stuff, circumstances right now have me using it for little more than a media machine, with the web most certainly being a media. Heck, at this moment, I have one almost as capable machine with 16 GiB only hosting a LTO-4 tape drive.

ADDED: this is on a stationary workstation, so all the problems that might crop up with limited mobile connectivity or screens less than 1080p with a 24 inch diagonal. NEC still makes some fine monitors with very long warranties.

Re: The Great Suspender: Free up memory by suspending inactive Chrome tabs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm genuinely interested in the reasons people maintain so many tabs open. What type of workflow you have when you end up with so much stuff open? How do you get back to some of those tabs? Wouldn't it be easier to just google it again when you need it instead of having it lingering around and wasting your HW resources?

It's pretty simple really. I have a branching factor > 1.0 which means for every tab I open, upon reading that tab, I find at least one more interesting link, and up another tab comes. It would converge to infinity if my computer didn't crash in a manner causing chrome to be unable to reload, or I didn't periodically hit chrome bugs in the O(1000)'s tab range.

That is most certainly a part of it as well. Hypertext is a very real thing, even if it's current implementation is not Xanadu fancy.

Re: The Great Suspender: Free up memory by suspending inactive Chrome tabs

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post #12

What I do, when Chrome, or rather, my abuse of it (14 windows, 735 tabs at the moment, Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit on a 32 GiB system) becomes onerous is to go to the task manager and kill groups of tabs taking up "too much" memory, and very occasionally, too much CPU. (I get away with that abuse, which it a bit higher right now because I'm in the process of buying a house, by killing all tabs after launching, and only enabl…

An extension called 'OneTab' might be of interest to you.

You can put hundreds of those tabs into just one that becomes a list, and then save it with the name 'house prosepcts'

Re: The Great Suspender: Free up memory by suspending inactive Chrome tabs

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They accumulate. Every day there are two or three pages you intend to read later, so you leave them open. A month later, you have an extra 100 tabs loaded. After six months, you have 600. There are also clusters of tabs associated with some research you were doing but didn't quite finish. Then the problem is it would take a couple of days to go through all the waiting tabs and shut them down, and you don't have a cou…

I'm having the problem right now of hundreds of tabs open on my phone, I context-switch out of the browser when I'm done and end up leaving dormant tabs all over the place. Unfortunately whenever I try to scroll through them to close the non-relevant ones Chrome crashes, usually restoring several of the tabs I'd successfully closed.

There are extensions like Session Manager that list all the tabs after a crash, so you can uncheck the ones you don't want to reload. I don't know if there is one for Chrome on mobile, but it might be worth a look....

Re: The Great Suspender: Free up memory by suspending inactive Chrome tabs

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Every single new chrome release memory consumption just gets worse. Most recently a single window with 1 gmail tab takes ~500mb (If I recall correctly you could actually run windows XP on 256).

I'm seriously considering rolling my browsers back to ~2012 and never upgrading again.

Re: The Great Suspender: Free up memory by suspending inactive Chrome tabs

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Any good alternatives recommended for Firefox?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bartab-plus/ does the same thing (actually a little better in the implementation) on Firefox. Once you install, go into config for it and set how long a tab may be idle before it auto-unloads. Unloaded tabs are shown slightly dimmed in the tab bar. You can also right click tabs (such as gmail / youtube / etc) and force them to always stay loaded, so your email / music streaming / etc aren't impacted.

Combo it with https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-groups-pa... that lets you organize your tabs into groups and you can have hundreds of well organized tabs without using much memory at all.

Re: The Great Suspender: Free up memory by suspending inactive Chrome tabs

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post #12

What I do, when Chrome, or rather, my abuse of it (14 windows, 735 tabs at the moment, Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit on a 32 GiB system) becomes onerous is to go to the task manager and kill groups of tabs taking up "too much" memory, and very occasionally, too much CPU. (I get away with that abuse, which it a bit higher right now because I'm in the process of buying a house, by killing all tabs after launching, and only enabl…

My god, I feel much better with my puny abuse.

ditto!

Re: The Great Suspender: Free up memory by suspending inactive Chrome tabs

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post #12

What I do, when Chrome, or rather, my abuse of it (14 windows, 735 tabs at the moment, Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit on a 32 GiB system) becomes onerous is to go to the task manager and kill groups of tabs taking up "too much" memory, and very occasionally, too much CPU. (I get away with that abuse, which it a bit higher right now because I'm in the process of buying a house, by killing all tabs after launching, and only enabl…

An extension called 'OneTab' might be of interest to you. You can put hundreds of those tabs into just one that becomes a list, and then save it with the name 'house prosepcts'

I tried that one, and it is indeed good, but see my other reply about how spacial organization works best for me. One Tab just didn't hit the sweet spot my normal system achieves, again, for me.

Re: The Great Suspender: Free up memory by suspending inactive Chrome tabs

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post #54
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm having the problem right now of hundreds of tabs open on my phone, I context-switch out of the browser when I'm done and end up leaving dormant tabs all over the place. Unfortunately whenever I try to scroll through them to close the non-relevant ones Chrome crashes, usually restoring several of the tabs I'd successfully closed.

There are extensions like Session Manager that list all the tabs after a crash, so you can uncheck the ones you don't want to reload. I don't know if there is one for Chrome on mobile, but it might be worth a look....

Session Buddy for non-mobile Chrome works very well and allows you to do roughly the same thing. I.e. take an saved session, maybe after copying (I think you can do that), and delete the tabs you're not interested in (it does have one level undo), and then only start the remainder, perhaps window by window (on the desktop, at least).

Re: The Great Suspender: Free up memory by suspending inactive Chrome tabs

#60

Every single new chrome release memory consumption just gets worse. Most recently a single window with 1 gmail tab takes ~500mb (If I recall correctly you could actually run windows XP on 256). I'm seriously considering rolling my browsers back to ~2012 and never upgrading again.

Except you'd have extremely vulnerable browsers.
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