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Cancellation of subscriptions to Springer journals

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Re: Cancellation of subscriptions to Springer journals

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I wonder how much this has to do with the francophonic Quebec culture. Montreal has two big universities, McGill and UdM. McGill is primarily English-speaking, while UdM is primarily French-speaking. French Canada has always been far more politically activist than English Canada - they shift paradigms without a clutch.

Montreal has 4 main universities, McGill, UdeM, UQAM and Concordia.

Re: Cancellation of subscriptions to Springer journals

#52
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University of Montreal should provide a link to Sci-Hub on their main library search page. Their students would appreciate it.

Or just have a lecture about it in every required freshman ethics course, which would have the same effect.

Re: Cancellation of subscriptions to Springer journals

#53

While price gouging by monopolistic publishers is certainly unpleasant, the very same universities complaining about the issue raise tuition and fees disproportionately. Save a few public universities, the Canadian and American universities operate just like the publishers they complain about.

I've talked to publishers who say they can justify charging high prices because it does not come from "taxpayers" but instead from tuition. While that is not entirely accurate, universities failing to push back against high costs for serials contributes to higher student fees.

Re: Cancellation of subscriptions to Springer journals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You may publish anywhere, but you must also publish it for free to the academic community. Is this possible? When publishing in a journal, I think you transfer your copyright to them; thereby preventing you from publishing the article any other way. Although as far as I know many journals allow a "pre-print version" to be published by the authors on their personal website.

If you transfer copyright at all, you typically only transfer it to the ACM, not Springer. Springer is just a contractor running a website and occasionally printing up phone books of papers that no one reads, and USB drives of PDFs people use for the week of the conference. See http://www.acm.org/publications/policies/copyright_policy

You're assuming the field of computer science, but Springer has journals for many disciplines.

Re: Cancellation of subscriptions to Springer journals

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While price gouging by monopolistic publishers is certainly unpleasant, the very same universities complaining about the issue raise tuition and fees disproportionately. Save a few public universities, the Canadian and American universities operate just like the publishers they complain about.

As mizzao pointed out, Canadian universities are publicly funded. Tuition rates went up a few percent over the course of my 5-year degree, and the most I paid for a year of studies was ~5600 at UBC (the lowest being ~5400). It really is nothing like the publisher UdeM is complaining about.

Re: Cancellation of subscriptions to Springer journals

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I wish universities would take the lead in forcing open the journal monopoly. It would be really great if a major university like Stanford or Harvard said to its professors: You may publish anywhere, but you must also publish it for free to the academic community. Until a major university or five takes a stand on this, the rest of us must continue to fight.

> You may publish anywhere, but you must also publish it for free to the academic community. Is this possible? When publishing in a journal, I think you transfer your copyright to them; thereby preventing you from publishing the article any other way. Although as far as I know many journals allow a "pre-print version" to be published by the authors on their personal website.

There's no such thing as automatic assignment of copyright to a published. However, there are many bad contracts that come with this nonsense.

You (as a presumed grad student) are the value in the system. If you give the journals your output don't be surprised that they build walls to protect it - they're useless without you and they know it.

They'll allow whatever they have to, and nothing else.

Re: Cancellation of subscriptions to Springer journals

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You may publish anywhere, but you must also publish it for free to the academic community. Is this possible? When publishing in a journal, I think you transfer your copyright to them; thereby preventing you from publishing the article any other way. Although as far as I know many journals allow a "pre-print version" to be published by the authors on their personal website.

> When publishing in a journal, I think you transfer your copyright to them That is correct. I have done this for every publication I've ever put out (O(10)). There may be exceptions but this is certainly the dominant paradigm in the physical sciences. My two cents: this is bigger than any University. It will require a government funding agency (likely, NIH or NSF) to take a stand vis a vi the public availability of…

The NIH has already done so, as noted in another comment - there's a brief period under which NIH funded work isn't open access, but then it needs to be available.

Additionally, many copyright transfer agreements expressly allow an institutional archival system.

Re: Cancellation of subscriptions to Springer journals

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You may publish anywhere, but you must also publish it for free to the academic community. Is this possible? When publishing in a journal, I think you transfer your copyright to them; thereby preventing you from publishing the article any other way. Although as far as I know many journals allow a "pre-print version" to be published by the authors on their personal website.

> When publishing in a journal, I think you transfer your copyright to them That is correct. I have done this for every publication I've ever put out (O(10)). There may be exceptions but this is certainly the dominant paradigm in the physical sciences. My two cents: this is bigger than any University. It will require a government funding agency (likely, NIH or NSF) to take a stand vis a vi the public availability of…

One of the big drivers in the biological sciences has been non-governmental funding mandating OA, notably the Gates and Wellcome Trusts.

Everyone in the physical sciences uses arXiv.

Re: Cancellation of subscriptions to Springer journals

#60
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since a few years ago, any EU or UK public funded research (which is most university research) must be published as open-access. It is a requirement of the funding. So this is already happening. However, it will need to be done by a greater proportion of the world to be effective. The only problem is that the method of open access publishing is usually to pay a few grand to the publisher for the privilege.

Are you sure? I think it's only funders like Wellcome that require open access. My UK collaborators (in physical sciences) don't publish in open access journals.

Do they self-archive? That was common practice back when I was an active researcher (early to mid 2000s).
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