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Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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saosebastiao wrote: post #32
eco wrote: post #19

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For several months XCode would just crash when I tried to run my application with debugging. It was eventually fixed by an XCode update. I think the only large platform owning company that has really succeeded with development tools is Microsoft. With Microsoft's newfound interest in cross platform development I'm looking forward to the day when I can just develop entirely in Visual Studio.

> With Microsoft's newfound interest in cross platform development I'm looking forward to the day when I can just develop entirely in Visual Studio. Agreed, VS is the best IDE out there by far. Still a shame that developing in VS implies developing on Windows.

Some of us are developers and do actually like Windows, but I agree it would nice for it to be cross-platform.

It would be handy on my travel netbook, which is the only GNU/Linux device at home.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by pjmlp »

retox wrote: post #26

Move fast, break all the tutorials. Android has a problem with churn in tooling.

Try to find documentation as well, most of the time it is scattered around developer blogs, SO posts or devbytes videos instead of being posted on the Android documentation website.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by pjmlp »

cel1ne wrote: post #28
guelo wrote: post #18

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I don't think it's the IDE, it's the build system. When Google pushed everyone over to Android Studio they also pushed everyone from Ant to Gradle. Gradle is supposed to be a better Maven but it's just dog slow. Just typing gradle --help takes over 3 seconds on my Macbook Pro.

Put org.gradle.daemon=true in your .gradle/gradle.properties. Slow startup is an old JVM problem.

> Slow startup is an old JVM problem.

No it not, when people make use of Java code, it starts in ms.

It is only slow when running languages like Groovy or Clojure on top of it.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by pjmlp »

agumonkey wrote: post #10
OldSchoolJohnny wrote: post #4

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Yeah I just started dabbling with it and I have an ultra fast windows 10 laptop with solid state drive and I'm amazed at how long it takes to go from changing a line of code to running it in the emulator. I was originally planning to do dev work for android in a virtual machine like everything else I work on but I doubt it would be anywhere near performant enough.

If you wanna feel something rare, find a win98 box on a pentium 2/3 and run turbo pascal IDE. Enjoy the paradoxical bliss. ps: TURBO.EXE amounts to a whopping 600KB.

MS-DOS 3.3, Turbo Pascal 6.0 and TASM, all in a 1.44 floppy! :)

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by pjmlp »

beefsack wrote: post #50
dkopi wrote: post #12

Long time eclipse user, impossible to go back after using android studio. It feels like programming with one hand tied behind my back.

I'm always surprised at how many people willingly put up with Eclipse's clunkiness and performance problems, regardless of how many functions it provides.

Because most of the time we don't have a choice.

At work, I am yet to get a customer that allows us to use anything but Eclipse. At home I rather use Netbeans for Java projects.

For Android, the Android Studio barely supports the NDK. So we are left with the older Eclipse CDT plugins, Visual Studio or NVidia CodeWorks.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by agumonkey »

pjmlp wrote: post #54
agumonkey wrote: post #10

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If you wanna feel something rare, find a win98 box on a pentium 2/3 and run turbo pascal IDE. Enjoy the paradoxical bliss. ps: TURBO.EXE amounts to a whopping 600KB.

MS-DOS 3.3, Turbo Pascal 6.0 and TASM, all in a 1.44 floppy! :)

I have a weird fetish of making everything fit on a floppy. Acute Kaytosis I guess. If I had functionning floppies I'd prep a DOS3 one like yours :)

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by dkopi »

pjmlp wrote: post #22
dkopi wrote: post #12

Long time eclipse user, impossible to go back after using android studio. It feels like programming with one hand tied behind my back.

I doubt you have tried Android Studio support for NDK versus Eclipse CDT.

Your assumptions are incorrect, and rather offensive.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Post by dkopi »

pjmlp wrote: post #55
beefsack wrote: post #50

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I'm always surprised at how many people willingly put up with Eclipse's clunkiness and performance problems, regardless of how many functions it provides.

Because most of the time we don't have a choice. At work, I am yet to get a customer that allows us to use anything but Eclipse. At home I rather use Netbeans for Java projects. For Android, the Android Studio barely supports the NDK. So we are left with the older Eclipse CDT plugins, Visual Studio or NVidia CodeWorks.

NDK work accounts for a small percentage of android work. If you're more comfortable with NDK on eclipse, that doesn't mean you can't build your ELFs in eclipse, and the rest of your project in Android Studio.
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