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Re: NYC vs Silicon Valley

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I do live (fort greene) and work (manhattan) in NYC. You should never use broker's though, they're a waste of money. It does take a little work to find a good deal, but you definitely can if you look early enough. Overall, I would agree. NJ seems to have the most cheap places. Great point about 45 commute just inside Manhattan. EDIT: I live in fort greene and I pay 735 a month -- for validation purposes.

"I live in fort greene and I pay 735 a month -- for validation purposes." With roomates or 1BR/Studio?

2BR (straight up, not flex) 1.5 bath. I live with one other person.

Re: NYC vs Silicon Valley

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"I live in fort greene and I pay 735 a month -- for validation purposes." With roomates or 1BR/Studio?

2BR (straight up, not flex) 1.5 bath. I live with one other person.

Wow, where in Fort Greene? That's pretty incredible.

Re: NYC vs Silicon Valley

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The bigger problem is that Hedge Funds develop an expensive lifestyle. Expensive lifestyles are hard to change.

Entry-level hedge fund salaries are similar to technology salaries, and perhaps a little bit lower. Bonuses are very high, but these vary from year to year and shouldn't be taken for granted (not to say that people don't). I made this change. I'm 26 and have no kids. My girlfriend's in school but will be able to support both of us when she's out. It's mildly annoying not to have a maid and nice vacations right now, b…

Betting on the midwest in the same breath as looking down on Roulette and Craps? Are you sure you're not a gambling man? Having grown up in the midwest, let me tell you that beyond the fact that it's cold (it is), except for Chicago, it's rather desolate and depressing. Even Chicago is pretty miserable in the winter. I know dozens of entrepreneurs from Illinois and Indiana who moved to SF as soon as they graduated university.

I'm fairly certain nobody has ever attend Berkeley or Stanford and said "Oooh I can't wait to move to Cleveland when I graduate!"

Re: NYC vs Silicon Valley

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In further defense of NYC, I want to address this whole rent/commuting argument. We are comparing this to Silicon Valley, where the freeway is packed with traffic both ways every morning and evening. That same commute in NYC means you could live in very affordable places in Brooklyn, Harlem, Queens, and NJ. Another founder I know, after exiting his company, moved to NYC from SV mainly because he couldn't stand being…

Just a quick point, you do not need to own a car and pay for car insurance in SF. I've been car-free for two years. Whenever I need to go somewhere that isn't convenient to my schedule or by public transit, I use zipcar, which is very convenient (at least in my neighborhood). Between car payments, insurance, maintenance, fuel, parking, and parking tickets I used to pay an average of $1,500/month for my vehicle. Now I spend about $70/month on Muni/BART/Caltrain, and between $100-$400/month on zipcar.

Re: NYC vs Silicon Valley

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I am a veteran of both places. Here is what you need to know.

- NYC is 30% more expensive than Silicon Valley / SF

- you don't need a car in SF but you probably do in SV

- you might need a car if you live in the inconvenient neighborhoods of SF.

- the bay area is sort of automatically healthy, you have to work hard to be unhealthy

- NYC is automatically unhealthy, you have to work hard to be healthy

- the weather is better in California

- the women are better in NYC

- if you are decent looking and have a job, you can get a date in NYC

- you can be good looking and rich in SV/SF and still never get a date

- there are better options for outdoors activities in California

- anything besides outdoors activities is more convenient in NYC.

- hedge funds / finance can be more interesting than a dumb startup and will certainly pay more

- working for a dumb startup is bad for your career

- you can get trapped in a startup career spiral in SF/SV where you never make any money, even if you're a great programmer

- you'll eventually make decent coin in NYC even if you're only an average programmer

- there are interesting people in NYC with varied careers ranging from UN analyst to fashion designer

- in SF/SV there are tech industry people and weirdos

- counterintuitively, even though NYC is more money oriented, the programmers often have very interesting outside interests. the meetup scene in NYC is intellectual, there's math, machine learning, functional programming, etc

- in SF/SV most of your fellow programmers will only claim road cycling and guitar hero as interests. the meetup scene is usually about source control or social media tweeting

I could go on and on. Thinking about where the best place is to build your startup is kind of silly. You want to think about what you want to build, and build it. You can always move later if needed. These lists are also dumb, although it was fun to write. Really the only way you can decide where to live is to experience places yourself.

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