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The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health

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Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health

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Post by Someone1234 »

donutdan4114 wrote: post #16
donutdan4114 wrote: post #11

As someone who has shifted to a sugar-free, high-fat lifestyle (keto diet), I can attest to the fact that sugar really is the ultimate evil in terms of health and nutrition. I've lost about 100lbs in 2.5 years... The only thing that I really changed was doing a Keto diet. I've learned a lot about nutrition along the way, and it's amazing how bad nutrition info was when I was growing up.. Common Misconceptions I hear/…

If anyone has any questions about starting a keto diet (high-fat, mid-protein, low-carb), feel free to ask. :) Cannot recommend it enough. It simply just works..

How expensive is it? I mean literally. A lot of these alternative diets seem to work but be far more expensive than eating crap, unless all you eat are veggies (which few like).

Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health

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Post by darkclarity »

chris_va wrote: post #33
donutdan4114 wrote: post #11

As someone who has shifted to a sugar-free, high-fat lifestyle (keto diet), I can attest to the fact that sugar really is the ultimate evil in terms of health and nutrition. I've lost about 100lbs in 2.5 years... The only thing that I really changed was doing a Keto diet. I've learned a lot about nutrition along the way, and it's amazing how bad nutrition info was when I was growing up.. Common Misconceptions I hear/…

(1) is technically incorrect. Humans have evolved to process fructose into triglycerides in the liver. This is different than getting a glucose spike in the bloodstream. (2) unfortunately reality is complicated. Most of what you care about is the glucose curve after consumption. You are correct in that different foods cause different curves. This will change per person, and some people will spike on soda, and some (s…

The good thing about broccoli is it contains nutrients that the body can use, for example, to enhance its ability to manage sugar levels.

Whereas a cheap soft drink is inert from a nutritional perspective, it probably has a load of flavouring and colouring that's out-of-place too.

Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health

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Post by xlm1717 »

chris_va wrote: post #33
donutdan4114 wrote: post #11

As someone who has shifted to a sugar-free, high-fat lifestyle (keto diet), I can attest to the fact that sugar really is the ultimate evil in terms of health and nutrition. I've lost about 100lbs in 2.5 years... The only thing that I really changed was doing a Keto diet. I've learned a lot about nutrition along the way, and it's amazing how bad nutrition info was when I was growing up.. Common Misconceptions I hear/…

(1) is technically incorrect. Humans have evolved to process fructose into triglycerides in the liver. This is different than getting a glucose spike in the bloodstream. (2) unfortunately reality is complicated. Most of what you care about is the glucose curve after consumption. You are correct in that different foods cause different curves. This will change per person, and some people will spike on soda, and some (s…

I found (2) really fascinating. I read a story recently about a study where they paired two people, gave them the exact same diet for a few weeks, and used continuous glucose monitoring to determine their glucose curves. It was striking that different people could have extremely different reactions to eating the exact same thing.

They speculate that it may be due to differences in gut bacteria, but still aren't sure why people react differently to the same food.

Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health

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Post by KingMob »

mtgx wrote: post #7

So when can we have stevia into all of our food?

Might be better to just curb the craving for sweetness. Study after study shows no effect of diet sodas vs regular sodas.

While artificial sweeteners have a low glycemic index/load, they stimulate the release of related hormones like insulin and GLP-1. And insulin, if you recall, signals fat cells to suck up the energy and grow.

So if you drink a diet soda, it might have no calories itself, but it's more likely to convince your body to turn more of your lunch into fat than otherwise.

Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health

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Post by scoj »

donutdan4114 wrote: post #11

As someone who has shifted to a sugar-free, high-fat lifestyle (keto diet), I can attest to the fact that sugar really is the ultimate evil in terms of health and nutrition. I've lost about 100lbs in 2.5 years... The only thing that I really changed was doing a Keto diet. I've learned a lot about nutrition along the way, and it's amazing how bad nutrition info was when I was growing up.. Common Misconceptions I hear/…

This is so true. But it's also not surprising how long it takes things to go from science updates to general population "common knowledge".

Also, I just can't help but notice your ironic username.

Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health

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Post by distances »

clentaminator wrote: post #38
chris_va wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(1) is technically incorrect. Humans have evolved to process fructose into triglycerides in the liver. This is different than getting a glucose spike in the bloodstream. (2) unfortunately reality is complicated. Most of what you care about is the glucose curve after consumption. You are correct in that different foods cause different curves. This will change per person, and some people will spike on soda, and some (s…

Is there a difference between natural fruit juice and the kind of "fruit juice" with high levels of marketing behind it e.g. Tropicana?

At least in EU fruit juices may not contain added sugar. Those mixes have to be called nectar, or something other like that [1].

Don't really know if there is a difference though.

[1] http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:320...

Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health

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Post by jedberg »

To everyone saying a Keto diet is great, a word of caution. Going Keto gave me kidney stones.

I asked my mom, who's had both children and kidney stones, which pain was worse, and she said the pain was about the same, but at least with childbirth you get a few months warning -- stones just show up and give you excruciating pain.

So it's great y'all are loosing weight (I did too!) but just be careful and drink a lot of water if you do it.

Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health

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Post by guiomie »

donutdan4114 wrote: post #11

As someone who has shifted to a sugar-free, high-fat lifestyle (keto diet), I can attest to the fact that sugar really is the ultimate evil in terms of health and nutrition. I've lost about 100lbs in 2.5 years... The only thing that I really changed was doing a Keto diet. I've learned a lot about nutrition along the way, and it's amazing how bad nutrition info was when I was growing up.. Common Misconceptions I hear/…

When you say sugar, you mean processed sugar right? My understanding is sugar in fruits is good for you...

Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health

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Post by framioco »

I lost a bunch of weight doing Low Carb High Fat, but later on switched to a vegan diet (of High Carb, Low Fat) for ethical reasons. I've been keeping the weight off with the High Carb diet and I'm actually eating more than before. Please note that high carb does not mean highly processed food. I eat mostly whole foods, little processing or refining, but ultimately it is treated as 'sugar' for the body: rice, potatoes, bread, etc. I also took blood analysis after LCHF and some months after the HCLF, and pretty much all indicators either stayed the same or improved. Colesterol levels were way high during the High Fat phase, and are now back to normal levels.
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