In the last year we've seen Apple produce a pencil and a watch, whats next a paperclip? I found the comment condescending and yet not at all surprising. Seriously F them.
That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people
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#52Virtue signalling, the article. Apple’s based in SF. An iPad Pro is like a week’s worth of rent, and to them “work” probably means scribbling a hipster poem while sipping coffee you can’t pronounce without 5 years of language study. How is anything the guy said different from how the conferences always go. The fact that the author found it worthwhile to write about this like this is an actual problem is astounding.
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#53In the last year we've seen Apple produce a pencil and a watch, whats next a paperclip? I found the comment condescending and yet not at all surprising. Seriously F them.
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#54In addition to the point the author makes about the benefits of modularity, this strikes me as environmentally tone-deaf as well. Do we just expect devices to enter the waste stream every 5 years now? Can't we do better?
That, sadly, is something Apple really doesn't support or encourage, by and large they've kept moving away from reparable and upgradable products[0] even though that's by far the most ecological option (short of not using industrial products in the first place) [0] to trade them for form (soldered RAM, fused display panels), for assembly convenience (tons of adhesives, thankfully they've at least started moving to ad…
But now they've got Liam the robot http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/apple-unveils-liam-iphone-recycling...
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#55I just can't bring myself to feel the author's anger, in any capacity. He wants to position this as a jab against those who build their own PCs, but that is utterly irrelevant. What percentage of those 600 million five-year-old PCs do you really think are being thoughtfully maintained by modders? Does the author realize that most people do not want the responsibility of maintaining their own hardware? Or that they do…
I guess it depends on the interpretation of Phil Schiller's statement.
You are basically arguing "for many people an iPad is a better computing device than a PC because there is less that can go wrong with it". Which I think is a very valid point, however it does not hinge on how old these PCs are - your argument works just as well for new PCs without properly configured backups and anti-virus protection.
If you read Phil Schiller's statement in this way - "it is sad that many people are using PCs which were better off using iPads" - then one might still disagree, but it is not offensive, especially coming from an Apple executive. :)
What the author of the article finds offensive - and which also put me off when watching the live presentation - was the suggestion that using old hardware is "sad". When you read Phil Schiller's statement as "it is sad that many people are still using five-year-old hardware" (which was my first interpretation as well) it really reads like advocacy for blind throw-away consumerism. Which also makes a mockery out of the picture Apple was trying to paint just 30 minutes earlier during the same presentation: That Apple products are built to last so that you do not have to throw them away every other year to replace them with something new because they stop receiving upgrades, their hardware fails, etc. (Which, unlike the author, my experience by the way supports - my old iPhone, old iMac and old iPad still work flawlessly, especially when I compare them to the number of Android / PC devices my friends have already rotated through in the same time period.)
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#56iPad neds to change to the point where it wouldn't be called and recognized as an iPad, or just die. That device is in technological gap right now, getting beaten by newer more modern devices that evolved from iPad form. It annoys me as hell what Apple is doing right now. For first few years I thought "Thank you God Cook is keeping it simple and well defined as it was under Jobs", but now I am afraid off repeating history. Wheel always turn, and I would be really sad to see 90s Apple before Jobs came back. I enjoy in their computers a lot, and they will always be main thing from Apple, at least to me. I bought second iPhone 5s a month ago because it simply does the job for me... While I was Apple fanboy, every consecutive year I get more and more disappointed.
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#57I just can't bring myself to feel the author's anger, in any capacity. He wants to position this as a jab against those who build their own PCs, but that is utterly irrelevant. What percentage of those 600 million five-year-old PCs do you really think are being thoughtfully maintained by modders? Does the author realize that most people do not want the responsibility of maintaining their own hardware? Or that they do…
The author's comments were more one how Schiller went ahead and phrased his thoughts, which gives insight on what Apple might really think about people who use PCs and just consider them as 'sad'. I might agree that you may be able to do better with upgrading your hardware and buy an Apple product, but as a PC user I'm more likely to be interested in Schiller explaining to me exactly why that would be a good idea and if it's really a good investment for me to do so (for example: by saying what you have said in a more presentable way). But just saying that that is 'sad', and have the audience face palming and applauding because they believe so too just shows how biased everyone in the audience just is. I'm likely to listen/engage if they give valid reasons to switch, not because they call people sad if they didn't use Apple.
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#58The comment appears even more heinous when Tim Cook goes on to brag a about recycling and Apple's environmental responsibility. Please. Apple is one of the most bourgeoisie and reactionary companies today, primarily pushing products meant for consumption, not for creating. At least be honest about it.
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#59This reads like outrage for the sake of outrage. Like someone looking for offense everywhere.
No it actually doesn't, his commentary is more about the disposable gadget culture and Phil's inability to understand that not everyone is in a socio-economic bracket where they can participate in the never-ending gadget refresh. Maybe you should reread it?
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#60I completely agree with the author of the article. Apple is the real-world incarnation of the economic premise of Huxley's "A Brave New World". This was just the mask dropping for a second to pander to the faithful. I'd like to add, as someone who works at K12 public high school, that I've seen the reality of the article played out. My building is 100% free lunch, most are extremely poor, and yet there is a sizable n…
I am not sure if I was suddenly without money, the iPhone would be what I would want to give up.
The utility of the device is incredible: Mapping. Phone. Internet. Email. Alarm Clock. Calendaring. Photography.
If anything we should work to get smart phones in the hands of the poor. It would be a great way to improve their lives for a somewhat modest cost. I am not sure it is all for looks. Maybe we could quibble about whether they should have an iPhone or some cheaper smartphone. I am just saying, it could be more for utility than image.