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2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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post #5

As a non web developer I am fairly surprised that about 50% of developers are "web developers". Is this the distribution in the global developer population as well ? Or is this a bias due to Stackoverflow which by its very nature is web centric ?

Biased towards users of StackOverflow, not developers in general. Unless you believe the population of developers who took the survey is representative of the entire world of software developers--I'd be willing to bet it's not.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#52
post #49

Fun fact. In Argentina the previous government used to give subsidies to McDonald's to keep the BigMac cheap, so these numbers around the world comparing salary to the BigMac index would look better.

Did you mean to comment in the fast food automation thread? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11304628

I would say this is because the reference to the big mac index on the stack overflow post.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#55

Fun fact. In Argentina the previous government used to give subsidies to McDonald's to keep the BigMac cheap, so these numbers around the world comparing salary to the BigMac index would look better.

This is not too surprising given their other statistical creativity [0].

[0] http://www.economist.com/node/21548242

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#56
post #6

> JavaScript is the most commonly used programming language on earth. Even Back-End developers are more likely to use it than any other language. I'm not convinced this conclusion applies to the software development community as a whole. s/earth/Stack Overflow/

I read it as: "Man, I better get over my hatred of JavaScript." (Started when building front ends to databases in 1999. Haven't really looked back and that is 100% my fault.

I disagree. I'd much rather be forced to learn an entirely new profession and leave coding all together than to be required to write Javascript professionally.

One thing this survey doesn't really touch on is the way the rise of Javascript is related to a fall in software quality. We write a lot more code now. More people write code. And a lot of that code sucks and it's a shame someone foolishly considers it productive labor output. And a lot of that code, the sucky stuff, is Javascript.

Refusal to use Javascript is still a signal of a smart and quality-focused developer. Similar to refusal to use Mongo.

I wish the SO survey didn't just measure what tech is popular among employers or what tech is paid well. Employers are notorious for incorrectly investing in the wrong tech, shoehorning things in, and declaring 'victory' when they deploy a bug-ridden, 1-star app or something. That kind of situation, which is common, should be down-weighted in the survey results, if only it were easier to collect that data.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#57

> 10% of respondents self-identified as Ninjas. Real ninjas don’t tell you they’re ninjas. They just sneak up on you and slit your throat, which generally constitutes "hostile workplace environment." Ah, good wit. Very nice write up!

My company makes recruiting software so I talk and deal with many recruiters.

I have to say I severely cringe every time a recruiter says "Rockstar" or "Ninja" (in a job description or ask if I am one). Just imagine using those terms for a talented medical doctor or lawyer. "Microservice" is quickly becoming another new recruiting term that I am beginning to despise. At least "agile" is mostly dead... mostly...

Speaking of which what ever happened to "Scotty", "Rocket scientist" or "Macgyver" (those were the sexy euphemisms back when I started software dev). They were far more apropo.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#58

Fun fact. In Argentina the previous government used to give subsidies to McDonald's to keep the BigMac cheap, so these numbers around the world comparing salary to the BigMac index would look better.

A very fun fact indeed!

Here are some sources to go with it: http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/05/01/why_big_macs_...

http://latitude.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/24/argentinas-big-...

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#59
post #53

Finding it a little suprising that C# is still decreasing in popularity, despite Microsofts recent efforts: 2013 - 44.7% 2014 - 37.6% 2015 - 31.6% 2016 - 30.9%

I wonder if it's actually decreasing in popularity or StackOverflow is just becoming increasingly popular with other languages.

Looking at the number of responses to that question, there are lots more people taking the survey in the last two years!

2013 - 8042

2014 - 6537

2015 - 21982

2016 - 49397

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#60
post #5

As a non web developer I am fairly surprised that about 50% of developers are "web developers". Is this the distribution in the global developer population as well ? Or is this a bias due to Stackoverflow which by its very nature is web centric ?

I see it kind of like this: 10 years ago when I had my first official job post college we needed some tools for interacting with our manufacturing data sets. I opened up Visual Studio and created some Windows applications and installers. Then we deployed a web service written in Java (because at the time any web server we had was *nix) to create some additional functionality and hooked the desktop apps up to it. Then…

I have no doubt that the web will eat desktop application (maybe native app as well at some point).

However, they are plenty fields from machine learning, to robotics that are also likely on the rise that would require some SW development skills.

Also, as mentioned by d0lph, I believe the high churn in web technology makes more people relying on SO, compared to let's say someone coding in C99.

But my view is probably skewed by working in embedded SW.

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