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Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by coldtea »

jonsmit wrote: post #38

How much? I know it's undisclosed but it would be very interesting. Hopefully someone leaks it. The rumor was Miguel told MS to "F*#K Off" when MS presented him with an offer many years ago. This lead to CoreCLR being open sourced and Visual Studio Code being built. I'd like to know if by undermining parts of Xamarins business they were able to get them at substantial discount - especially with the tech industry down…

>The rumor was Miguel told MS to "F&#K Off" when MS presented him with an offer many years ago. This lead to CoreCLR being open sourced and Visual Studio Code being built.

The rumor sounds bogus. MS has been collaborating with Xamarin (and it's previous incarnation) for almost a decade.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by Someone1234 »

jonsmit wrote: post #38

How much? I know it's undisclosed but it would be very interesting. Hopefully someone leaks it. The rumor was Miguel told MS to "F*#K Off" when MS presented him with an offer many years ago. This lead to CoreCLR being open sourced and Visual Studio Code being built. I'd like to know if by undermining parts of Xamarins business they were able to get them at substantial discount - especially with the tech industry down…

> This lead to CoreCLR being open sourced and Visual Studio Code being built.

What is it you think those to products are? They aren't trying to reproduce anything Xamarin does.

CoreCLR is part of Microsoft's "cloudy" strategy, they want to be on Linux micro-instances, and on Windows Server Nano. Visual Studio Code is just the absolutely minimum Microsoft has to do to make CoreCLR seem "real" on other platforms (a 101 UI).

Honestly the whole .Net open sourcing/porting thing is a lot older than this cross-platform interest and while the two are aligned right now I highly doubt that's what kicked it off.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by PeCaN »

pmalynin wrote: post #48
ealexhudson wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MS already have one; Visual Studio Code. The crazy has been coming a while.

Eh Visual studio code is not an IDE. Last time I used it the C# support was pretty bad.

It's IDE-ish for some languages. I would call it a full-featured TypeScript IDE (with IntelliSense, syntax-checking, a decent debugger, etc) but not much else.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by bkovacic »

solutionyogi wrote: post #27
bkovacic wrote: post #24

Hope this means lower prices. Or even some free edition? :)

I strongly feel that they will provide a free edition which works with Visual Studio Code.

I hope they do. I'm pretty sure that pricing is the key factor that is stopping xamarin from being way more popular

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by rs999gti »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #22
msoad wrote: post #6

3 years ago this would be a sad news for Xamarin, today with the new Microsoft I'm glad to see this. Microsoft will not destroy Xamarin (I hope)

Microsoft is only a threat to JetBrains from where I'm standing and looking, I have a feeling they will fix up Xamarin the way we all hope they will. I really hope there will be a completely free option of Xamarin for Students and maybe even on BizSpark.

If MS puts Xamarin licensing under MSDN I'd be really happy.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by coldtea »

chx wrote: post #43

Xamarin bought by Microsoft two days after Skype for Linux can't join calls by new clients. Oh yeah. The future is bright. Just not for the Linux desktop pieces of Mono.

Desktop Linux was, is, and will probably always be a niche thing. And if the open source community is so great, as some of its proponents argue, let them build their own Skype.

The non desktop pieces of Mono should be getting lots of improvements, though.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by littlegreenb18 »

niels_olson wrote: post #30
Avalaxy wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes indeed, right now Xamarin is very very buggy and also pretty slow. I think the software will get MUCH better if the teams at Microsoft will start working on it.

or its embrace extend extinguish?

That doesn't apply here. This is a strategic purchase for Microsoft. They have no competing technology. That was in reference to standards. Microsoft wanted to turn open standards into proprietary standards to drive people toward their products.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by Someone1234 »

livus wrote: post #47
giancarlostoro wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft is only a threat to JetBrains from where I'm standing and looking, I have a feeling they will fix up Xamarin the way we all hope they will. I really hope there will be a completely free option of Xamarin for Students and maybe even on BizSpark.

There is already a free option of Xamarin for students.[1] Earlier there used to be a separate application process but now it is rolled into DreamSpark [1] https://xamarin.com/student

There's also the "Starter Edition" for everyone else:

https://xamarin.com/starter

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Post by JBReefer »

ealexhudson wrote: post #42
JBReefer wrote: post #16

This is giant news for the .NET ecosystem. It means that MS is serious about their push into Mobile and Linux, and that .NET developers aren't going to have to work with Xamarin's ever-so-slightly-behind libraries anymore. It also means that MS now produces an IDE on Linux, which is a crazy change from 10 years ago.

MS already have one; Visual Studio Code. The crazy has been coming a while.

Visual Studio Code doesn't do an eighth of what VS 2015 does. VS 2015 on Linux with a full CLR would be huge. Think about the opportunities for existing enterprise programmers, alone.
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