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Sooo tl;dr: is that chickens use more water, produce more manure, and tend to be butchered away from the farms, but the study was still correct in it's food to protein conversions being almost the same between poultry and crickets?
I guess I'd summarize the feed conversion part as follows: - Crickets are slightly better than poultry at converting poultry feed into protein. - Crickets are great at converting processed grocery store waste into protein; poultry can't do this at all. - Both species are awful at converting low quality food waste (a mix of chicken poop and straw) into protein. - The efficient feed conversion of modern poultry comes o…
Tiny Farms Raises Seed Round as Cricket Farming Heats Up
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All food may have protein, but all food does not have essential amino acids (which cannot be made by your body) in the quantities required to maintain health. This is why non-meat eaters must be sure to add certain foods (or certain combination of foods) to their diet if they want to stay healthy. Not bagging on vegetarianism, but the idea you can get sufficient protein by just eating any old plant is.... wrong. And…
> All food may have protein, but all food does not have essential amino acids (which cannot be made by your body) in the quantities required to maintain health. > the idea you can get sufficient protein by just eating any old plant is.... wrong. You're quite mistaken. If what you say were true, a warning of it would be clearly made by medical and nutritional authorities. Alas, no respectable organization says it, pre…
But I weigh over 200 pounds. So 9+ potatoes a day from me to get all the essential amino acids. That's a pretty high starch to protein ratio and would be nearly my whole intake in calories to get a bare minimum of amino acids. Essentials aside, is that enough protein? Also at that point I would have fulfilled my daily requirement of calories but be still be short vitamins A, K, E, calcium, selenium, fatty acids and who knows what else.
That aside, potatoes are one plant. I don't dispute you can eat certain plants or combinations of plants to get all essential amino acids. To restate "the idea you can get sufficient protein by eating just any old plant is... wrong". It is. You'd be in serious nutrition trouble if you tried to live on just broccoli or lettuce. You have to carefully balance your diet as a healthy vegetarian and it is far easier just to add some animal protein.
For the record I still eat a "mostly" vegetarian diet. But not completely. And I feel a lot better and have more energy than when I did ate a full vegetarian diet.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess I'd summarize the feed conversion part as follows: - Crickets are slightly better than poultry at converting poultry feed into protein. - Crickets are great at converting processed grocery store waste into protein; poultry can't do this at all. - Both species are awful at converting low quality food waste (a mix of chicken poop and straw) into protein. - The efficient feed conversion of modern poultry comes o…
> Both species are awful at converting low quality food waste (a mix of chicken poop and straw) into protein Wait - what? Do farmers really try to feed their chickens with chicken shit?!
A British and Irish inquiry into BSE concluded the
epizootic was caused by cattle, which are normally
herbivores, being fed the remains of other cattle
in the form of meat and bone meal (MBM), which
caused the infectious agent to spread
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_spongiform_encephalopat...Re: Tiny Farms Raises Seed Round as Cricket Farming Heats Up
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All plant foods have a complete amino acid profile fit for human consumption. That's a really weird phrase. I guess suggestions that a protein complete diet is easier when eating meat are also a bit overwrought, but it's possible to eat plants and end up not getting all essential amino acids which is usually what is meant when "complete" is mentioned together with protein.
> it's possible to eat plants and end up not getting all essential amino acids No, that isn't possible. You could eat nothing but potatoes, or even mangoes, and still get enough protein. There isn't a single whole plant food which is completely lacking in any essential amino acid. How could it? Plants can't "hunt" and "eat" other plants - they must synthesize all amino acids themselves. The "complete protein" myth is…
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/eating-too-much-rice-almost...
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> it's possible to eat plants and end up not getting all essential amino acids No, that isn't possible. You could eat nothing but potatoes, or even mangoes, and still get enough protein. There isn't a single whole plant food which is completely lacking in any essential amino acid. How could it? Plants can't "hunt" and "eat" other plants - they must synthesize all amino acids themselves. The "complete protein" myth is…
That's pretty much what the Meji era Japanese Navy told themselves and that didn't turn out very well. https://medium.com/war-is-boring/eating-too-much-rice-almost...
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> Both species are awful at converting low quality food waste (a mix of chicken poop and straw) into protein Wait - what? Do farmers really try to feed their chickens with chicken shit?!
That's pretty much how we got Mad Cow Disease [1] A British and Irish inquiry into BSE concluded the epizootic was caused by cattle, which are normally herbivores, being fed the remains of other cattle in the form of meat and bone meal (MBM), which caused the infectious agent to spread [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_spongiform_encephalopat...
It's not unusual for farmers to add amino acids as a supplement to feed. It's one of the targets for high-nitrogen (amino acid) GM corn.
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#58I can not wait to see a 2000 pound cricket, bred for size by conventional means...;)
Sorry to step on your harmless joke, but big insects can't breathe: https://bioteaching.wordpress.com/2012/03/24/gigantism-in-in...