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Re: A Linux-powered microwave oven

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There are some fascinating things you could do with one of those. You could, for example, make a "stick boiler"—like a "stick blender"—that you stick inside a cup of liquid to heat it up, without any part of the stick itself getting hot. (Presumably there'd be a waffle-grid cross-guard to block reflected RF.) But, in the wrong hands, that's a directed-energy weapon, isn't it? (Hell, stick one of these in the right ki…

You can do plenty of damage with a normal microwave oven in the wrong hands, I remember reading a book from the library a few years back that detailed making an EMP from one. Thinking of that book, I don't think it's likely that libraries would carry that kind of book any more, sadly.

Which book was that? A portable EMP could be really useful....

Re: A Linux-powered microwave oven

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Can anyone here explain to me why microwave ovens always have their power settings as multiples of some value, e.g. 200/400/800w but never have the ability to set a specific power output, e.g. 425w.

Microwave ovens use magnetrons to produce the microwave radiation. Magnetrons cannot be run at anything less than full power. Some microwaves have additional coils in the magnetron that can be connected to increase the power level, but it's limited to the power levels you can get from the various combinations of coils. For the same reason, running a normal microwave at "50% power" actually means it runs at full power…

Solid-state microwave generators have been developed to replace magnetrons recently, and they can run at variable power.

http://electronicdesign.com/blog/say-good-bye-last-vacuum-tu...

Using the MHT1003N, manufacturers can use from one to eight of these 250 W units to build a microwave oven with the desired power level. And the magnetron’s 4 kV power supply goes away in place of a supply of 28 to 50 volts. Furthermore, the crude on-off control of the magnetron can be replaced with full variable power control.

However, as far as I know there's no consumer devices containing things like this yet - the only ones I've seen were concept devices from Freescale. This article suggests we won't see them until 2017, and then only in high-end cookers:

http://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/design/the-future-of-m...

Re: A Linux-powered microwave oven

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This reminds me a lot of this project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2YtARzJTys

It integrated a raspberry pi with a barcode scanner and microwave. All you needed to do to cook prepackaged food was scan the barcode. It had all the times set in and all of the mixing and instructions.

I think that feature is useful.

Re: A Linux-powered microwave oven

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Once I tried to warm up some food in a microwave oven at work and it would not run (no light or fan.) I opened the door and now the fan was running. Close the door and it stopped again. No idea if there was any microwave radiation coming out but I quickly unplugged that thing and put a note on it for facility staff. Not sure how a safety sensor would fail in that manner!

Re: A Linux-powered microwave oven

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I bought a "crappy" brand microwave because it has a great UI: One knob with rotary encoder for time (turn faster for minutes). One knob with rotary encoder for power. Both settingscan be changed even while microwave is running.

That's what the original microwave UI was like: http://www.radar58.com/radarange/fullsize/2Panel.jpg Mine is like that too, and it works really well and simple to use compared to the alternative of a dozen not-very-tactile buttons. It's based on a mechanical timer, so no buggy firmware either.

Have one like that. Only problem is that it predates the rotary plate, so i have to do half and half times to make sure they heat somewhat evenly. Great for a quick bag of popcorn though.

Re: A Linux-powered microwave oven

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That's a fine looking death machine there. Then again, the buttons on my microwave are also so horrible I've been tempted... If he gets the voice control worked out to where I can say "Tea, Earl Grey, Hot" I might be sold.

>Then again, the buttons on my microwave are also so horrible Is it really that hard to push "Time cook -> 2 -> 3 -> 0 -> Start"? I mean come on I can understand wanting to optimize your life or whatever but complaining about microwave buttons seems a bit ridiculous.

Or you have the quick option, where hitting start add time in 30 second units.

Re: A Linux-powered microwave oven

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My microwave has a horrid interface; instead of buttons for setting the time to cook, it has a digital dial with a bizare nonlinear sensitivity. Fortunately it has a "add 30s" button, as the digital dial is so hard to use that I press the "add 30s" button 10 times for something that needs 5 minutes to cook.

Re: A Linux-powered microwave oven

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Microwave ovens use magnetrons to produce the microwave radiation. Magnetrons cannot be run at anything less than full power. Some microwaves have additional coils in the magnetron that can be connected to increase the power level, but it's limited to the power levels you can get from the various combinations of coils. For the same reason, running a normal microwave at "50% power" actually means it runs at full power…

Solid-state microwave generators have been developed to replace magnetrons recently, and they can run at variable power. http://electronicdesign.com/blog/say-good-bye-last-vacuum-tu... Using the MHT1003N, manufacturers can use from one to eight of these 250 W units to build a microwave oven with the desired power level. And the magnetron’s 4 kV power supply goes away in place of a supply of 28 to 50 volts. Furthermor…

They are as-yet too expensive for low-end microwaves, IIRC they are around 0.10 per watt in quantity so $100 in parts just for a 1kW oven.

Re: A Linux-powered microwave oven

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That's a fine looking death machine there. Then again, the buttons on my microwave are also so horrible I've been tempted... If he gets the voice control worked out to where I can say "Tea, Earl Grey, Hot" I might be sold.

>Then again, the buttons on my microwave are also so horrible Is it really that hard to push "Time cook -> 2 -> 3 -> 0 -> Start"? I mean come on I can understand wanting to optimize your life or whatever but complaining about microwave buttons seems a bit ridiculous.

Some microwave ovens have pretty hostile user interfaces.

The microwave oven I've got doesn't let you use the number keys to specify the power level. Each press of the power level button decrements the power level by 10%, and the first press doesn't count. So to cook something at 30%, you need to press the power level button 8 times before typing in the cooking time.

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